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Old March 5th, 2001, 10:16 AM

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Default How many people set their OWN planet type to ICE??

I usually set my own planet type to ice, and always seem to be at a huge disadvantage against the other races.

How many people, especially those that complain the game is too easy, set their planet types to ice?
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Old March 5th, 2001, 10:25 AM
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Default Re: How many people set their OWN planet type to ICE??

I think you make a good point. When I switch from rock / oxygen to gas / methane, I find that it slows my start down by quite a bit.

Ironically, I'm playing rock / oxygen now, and it is a harder game than gas / methane in the middle of the game. Usually, by this time I have 'acquired' rock planet colonization from an enemy empire. But everyone around me is rock colony as well! I actually had to research gas giant and ice instead of obtaining it from a race when they surrendered!

Didn't someone say they thought 'none' atmosphere was the most challenging of all? I haven't tried that one yet. Any comments from those who have done this?
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Old March 5th, 2001, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: How many people set their OWN planet type to ICE??

I played a few games with rock/none race and it wasn't that difficult. All those moons help a lot for such race.
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Old March 5th, 2001, 01:19 PM

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Default Re: How many people set their OWN planet type to ICE??

In my Last game for score in small universe I took ice/none because most AI start with rock (ice is second, gas is rarest), none of the AIs start with none (oxygen as CO2 races are plentifull, hydrogen and methane a bit less present).
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Default Re: How many people set their OWN planet type to ICE??

Has anyone sat down and and figured out what the chances are for each planet type vs. atmosphere?
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Default Re: How many people set their OWN planet type to ICE??

The Arachnid Consortium uses Gas/Hydrogen. Their frequency is intermittant, but, the catch is that they are almost always large & huge. This helps to balance out the quantity problem for me. The problem *I* have is trying to decide which to research next...Ice or Rock...it seems like I always pick the wrong one


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Default Re: How many people set their OWN planet type to ICE??

I use Gas / Carbon Dioxide for my Nerdon race. I chose Gas because...well...Nerds tend to stink so I thought them living on a "gassy" world fit.

I chose Carbon Dioxide because at my work, we call people who are useless "CO2 makers", meaning all they are good for is breathing. Thought it would be a race with a little style (very little! .

Oh, of course I set my reproduction rate to 91%...Nerds just can't seem to find many dates..

I hope I have not offended any fellow nerds!




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Old March 5th, 2001, 06:16 PM

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Default Re: How many people set their OWN planet type to ICE??

I have set my race to Ice/Carbon Dioxide and Ice/Methane several times and found that the Ice/Carbon Dioxide actually seemed to give me an advantage (as Rock/M or Rock/CD).

I haven't tried the no atmosphere yet... I tend to roleplay the creation of my race and visualize such a being as the Crystal dudes (can't remember name).

I also haven't tried Ice/Oxygen, but will now...

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Default Re: How many people set their OWN planet type to ICE??

One thing to keep in mind is that while Rock maybe the most common type of planet found, Rock is ALSO the most common type of planet AI races will inhabit. This means lots of increased competition for the same systems. It also means that the new AI routines will 'covet' your planets and cause a negative diplomatic penalty.

I think Ice and Rock are fairly well balanced because of this. I think Gas Giants are an utter no brainer and they make the game far too easy if selected. There arent many Gas Giant AIs and almost all of the planets are Large/Huge. There dont seem to be to terribly many LESS GG planets either and their values are on par. (I was hoping to see something like lower mineral values or something for GGs so you have to have more mines to get the same results, thus offsetting some of the size advantage).

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Default Re: How many people set their OWN planet type to ICE??

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I usually set my own planet type to ice, and always seem to be at a huge disadvantage against the other races.

How many people, especially those that complain the game is too easy, set their planet types to ice?



It's only a short-term disadvantage. In the long run it's an advantage because sooner or later you'll be able to conquer a rock colonizing race and get that colonization tech. This will almost always be MANY turns before any of the AI races can do the same. AI vs. AI wars are very slow. Now you've got TWO colonization types and you're well ahead of the AI races unless they've found a colonization tech in ruins or (unlikely) conquered another race themselves.
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