Armor, Shields and Damage (FAQ) - Page 6

Mephisto · #51 November 28th, 2001, 03:58 PM

Do you know if multible pieces of emissive armor are stacking (i.e. do 2 emissve-armor III totals to 60 points)?

Rollo · #52 November 28th, 2001, 04:09 PM

Emissive Armor does not stack.

DirectorTsaarx · #53 November 28th, 2001, 05:11 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Rollo:
Emissive Armor does not stack.

Do we think it should stack? I can't decide whether it ought to stack or not. Organic and crystalline armor stack; but then again, if emissive armor stacked, you could REALLY build invulnerable ships (imagine ignoring 300 points of damage; or even 3000 points of damage!).

I guess I talked myself out of wanting emissive armor to stack.

Mark Walton · #54 November 28th, 2001, 05:35 PM

It should not stack - this represents damage resistance on one part of the hull.

I suppose fighters can fly in such a way that they can focus their fire on one point on the hull, bLasting through.

We could have different "sizes" of armour though, representing different thicknesses. Bigegr ships can withstand bigger quantities of damage, that way.

Suicide Junkie · #55 November 28th, 2001, 05:44 PM

quote:
I hope MM fixes the fighters soon, so emissive armor will be useful in standard games as well. That will also make crystal armor much better against fighters

Rather than fixing the fighters, fix the Emissive Armor!!!
Instead of an All-or-nothing approach, subtract 10 points from the weapon damage whenever an Emissive component (with 10 ability points) is hit.
With that, damage is reduced for any weapon hit.
Emissive armor will then stack, but only if a second Emissive armor component is hit on the same shot (and the first armor was destroyed).

Rollo · #56 November 28th, 2001, 07:40 PM

First of all, I agree that emissive armor should not stack. Just too easy to make invulnerable ships that way.

quote:
Originally posted by suicide_junkie:
Rather than fixing the fighters, fix the Emissive Armor!!!
Instead of an All-or-nothing approach, subtract 10 points from the weapon damage whenever an Emissive component (with 10 ability points) is hit.
With that, damage is reduced for any weapon hit.
Emissive armor will then stack, but only if a second Emissive armor component is hit on the same shot (and the first armor was destroyed).

Sorry, but I don't agree, S_J. Reducing damage is not what emissive should do. This is already done (Well, very close) with the crystal armor that loads your shields and thus reduces the effect of the next shot.

Rollo

Puke · #57 November 28th, 2001, 08:06 PM

perhaps if you tweaked low dammage weapons to be more efficient than their high damage counterparts, then they would become the weapon of choice. then the use of emissive armor would force people to use larger weapons, thus making it valueable, and forcing people to make more choices in the game.

what i think needs to be fixed, is that fighters fire as a stack instead of individuals. so emissive armor that should stop one fighters weapons wont stop the combined attack of the entire stack. that seems to defeat the point of the emissive armor.

President_Elect_Shang · #58 November 28th, 2001, 09:07 PM

I have a damage Q. Sort of.
Has anyone tried to create a weapon that can only fire once than is fried. Destroyed on use ability does not work. How about a weapon that may or may not blow to pieces. Every time you use it is like a toss of the dice?

Suicide Junkie · #59 November 28th, 2001, 09:11 PM

quote:
Sorry, but I don't agree, S_J. Reducing damage is not what emissive should do. This is already done (Well, very close) with the crystal armor that loads your shields and thus reduces the effect of the next shot.

The differences, as I wish it was:
- Only components which are damaged or destroyed stack their emissive ability. (crys stacks all of them, all the time)
- Emissive ability works as above for internals, too.
- Components without emissive abilities do not get any emissive-type protection. (crys works, even if some other type of armor takes the damage)
- Emissive abilities work against "only X", and shield or armor skipping weapons. (as long as the component being hit has emissive ability)
- Quad2Shields and shield-only damage types do not reduce the effectiveness of emissive abilities.

dumbluck · #60 December 10th, 2001, 12:30 PM

Ok, here's another question for all of you gurus out there. How do shields and the special armors work on units????? I know that units don't track destroyed components; they are either in pristene working order or completely destroyed, with no in betweens. But that's all I know.

Heres to hoping for an answer!!!