.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

Raging Tiger- Save $9.00
winSPMBT: Main Battle Tank- Save $6.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > The Camo Workshop > WinSPMBT > TO&Es
Notices


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old August 20th, 2024, 12:11 PM
DRG's Avatar

DRG DRG is offline
Shrapnel Fanatic
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: GWN
Posts: 12,495
Thanks: 3,966
Thanked 5,704 Times in 2,815 Posts
DRG will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Why no US special forces?

I will take much more time when I get time to look into this but it APPEARS if we end LRP ( now named LRRP ) to end 12/1968 then make the ranger formations after Korea to start January 1969 instead of Jan 1974 this fixes the problem ( that and push the LRRP start date back a bit.. MAYBE 1/63 )
__________________


"You are never to old to rock and roll if you are too young to die".--- What do you expect to be doing when you are 80?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kWt8ELuDOc
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old August 20th, 2024, 12:11 PM

retiredgysgt retiredgysgt is offline
Corporal
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Posts: 123
Thanks: 5
Thanked 17 Times in 12 Posts
retiredgysgt is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Why no US special forces?

Quote:
Originally Posted by DRG View Post
If you have info, please share. The main work on this OOB and these units was done over 2 decades ago and if someone doesn't complain, we don't go looking for things to fix

According to WIKI

Quote:

RE LRRP units

On 1 January 1969, under the new U.S. Army Combat Arms Regimental System (CARS), these units were redesignated "Ranger" in South Vietnam within the 75th Infantry Regiment (Ranger) and all replacement personnel were mandatory airborne qualified.[31][32] Fifteen companies of Rangers were raised from LRRP units, which had been performing missions in Europe since the early 1960s and in Vietnam since 1966
ANYONE else want's to chime in about this please do. It appears we have most of what we want but with different naming conventions but dates need tweaking
you are quick and good most of my research was on armored cav for south Vietnam and some ranger research for South Vietnam.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old August 20th, 2024, 12:17 PM
DRG's Avatar

DRG DRG is offline
Shrapnel Fanatic
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: GWN
Posts: 12,495
Thanks: 3,966
Thanked 5,704 Times in 2,815 Posts
DRG will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Why no US special forces?

The "FIX" is simple for the formations ( 4 ADJUSTMENTS )

But the UNITS used require adjusting as well and that will require more care and double checking for "collateral damage" issues
__________________


"You are never to old to rock and roll if you are too young to die".--- What do you expect to be doing when you are 80?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kWt8ELuDOc
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old August 20th, 2024, 12:40 PM
DRG's Avatar

DRG DRG is offline
Shrapnel Fanatic
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: GWN
Posts: 12,495
Thanks: 3,966
Thanked 5,704 Times in 2,815 Posts
DRG will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Why no US special forces?

I have this fixed now.

LRRP formations and the units used now run 1/63- 12/68

Rangers ( Post Korea ) now start 1/69 instead of 1/74 and that required a number of unit start dates changed as well ( after weapons availability checks ).

This corrects an error 2 decades old but there is better, more precise info now than 20 years ago
__________________


"You are never to old to rock and roll if you are too young to die".--- What do you expect to be doing when you are 80?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kWt8ELuDOc
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to DRG For This Useful Post:
  #15  
Old August 20th, 2024, 03:18 PM

retiredgysgt retiredgysgt is offline
Corporal
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Posts: 123
Thanks: 5
Thanked 17 Times in 12 Posts
retiredgysgt is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Why no US special forces?

Quote:
Originally Posted by DRG View Post
I have this fixed now.

LRRP formations and the units used now run 1/63- 12/68

Rangers ( Post Korea ) now start 1/69 instead of 1/74 and that required a number of unit start dates changed as well ( after weapons availability checks ).

This corrects an error 2 decades old but there is better, more precise info now than 20 years ago
I play a lot of Vietnam stuff so appreciate the adds, though lately it has mostly been either early with the French or later with the South Vietnamese. The reason I ask about Green Beret is because they had a lot to do with the special forces of the South and I was wondering why they weren't around.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old August 20th, 2024, 03:52 PM
DRG's Avatar

DRG DRG is offline
Shrapnel Fanatic
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: GWN
Posts: 12,495
Thanks: 3,966
Thanked 5,704 Times in 2,815 Posts
DRG will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Why no US special forces?

If you DO NOT PBEM

AND **IF** You are comfortable using MOBHack

******** LRRP

Change formation 007 , 038 and 253
Start date 1/63
End Date 12/68
Rename LRP to LRRP

UNIT 443 name LRRP Patrol
Start date 1/63
End Date 12/68

Change Experience and Morale modifiers to 12

================================================== =======================

************ Rangers

Ranger Pl Formation 65 and 87 Ranger Co
Start date 1/69

UNIT 167 Ranger Squad
Start date 1/69

UNIT 426 Ranger Patrol
Start date 1/69

UNIT 969 Ranger LAW Team
Start date 1/69

If you want "Green Berets" rename them in the game when you set up a battle. I know they are not the exact same in RL but they would be set up the same in the game

If you do PBEM ignore all that.....
__________________


"You are never to old to rock and roll if you are too young to die".--- What do you expect to be doing when you are 80?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kWt8ELuDOc

Last edited by DRG; August 20th, 2024 at 04:01 PM..
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to DRG For This Useful Post:
  #17  
Old August 21st, 2024, 07:26 PM
zovs66's Avatar

zovs66 zovs66 is offline
First Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Ohio
Posts: 788
Thanks: 1,258
Thanked 576 Times in 313 Posts
zovs66 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Why no US special forces?

I just happened to be doing some research on the Rangers and got a nice tome covering 1942-1987. I can provide some info if needed.
__________________
ASL
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old August 21st, 2024, 10:49 PM
FASTBOAT TOUGH's Avatar

FASTBOAT TOUGH FASTBOAT TOUGH is offline
Lieutenant General
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Kingsland, GA.
Posts: 2,776
Thanks: 752
Thanked 1,297 Times in 973 Posts
FASTBOAT TOUGH is on a distinguished road
Fallout Re: Why no US special forces?

From the Revolutionary War to the Present from the only source that matters the U.S. Army. And they were in Korea as companies attached to regular Army Regiments. This isn't long and might modify a couple of things but also validate others.

Never play USA without a Ranger unit. And currently we have a Retired Major from the Rangers working with us seems like a good guy and he certainly "can have my back anytime."
https://www.army.mil/ranger/heritage.html


Regards,
Pat
__________________
"If something is not impossible, there must be a way of doing it." - Sir Nicholas Winton

"Ex communi periculo, fraternitas" - My career long mentor and current friend -QMCM/SS M. Moher USN Ret..
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to FASTBOAT TOUGH For This Useful Post:
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:32 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2024, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.