That didn't work (AI)

krpeters · #1 January 4th, 2011, 09:58 PM

So, I decided to see what Bogarus could do with Astral Gyser against AI opponents. 5 Kalendologists can do a pretty good job. The lead casts Light of the Northern Star; the following 4 do a reasonable job of stomping the chaff at long range...

...or did until the AI's Shedu showed up. Suddenly my Kalendologists think that hitting him with 2 AN MR attacks is more useful than taking out chaff. OK, annoying, but I can live with that...

...until he flies into my troops, and suddenly its *my* guys getting fried. AAAAAA!!!!

Is there any way to tell evoc hurlers, "Please, please, PLEASE, do not fry my troops!"

Finalgenesis · #2 January 5th, 2011, 04:08 AM

The AI do place a high priority in avoid hitting your troops with AoE.

I suspect Astral geyser being a special case since its AoE is "invisible" as spell description only shows AoE 1, AI think of it as having 1 AoE only, thus no FF issue and can be safely used, it doesn't enter their calculation that its actually closer to 9 AoE...

Maybe switch to stellar cascade? Half the fatigue, works amazingly well on SCs of all kind, also works on troops, always hits with decent AoE. Their AoE is actually recognized so they should switch to say paralyze or something if someone gets in among your troops.

krpeters · #3 January 5th, 2011, 08:54 PM

My troops eat AI "SC"s easily enough; it's his horde of light infantry and archers I'm trying to kill. Fatigue might slow them down, but they're not high-encumberance troops that are really going to get ruined by it.

thejeff · #4 January 5th, 2011, 09:07 PM

Stellar Cascades is a great spell against SC and thugs and it's pretty good against relatively small numbers of elites or heavies, but it's useless against waves of chaff. Especially when you're fighting them with elite/heavy troops. They get rack up a bit of fatigue, but since it's spread out it never really builds up. Then your elites kill the front rank, which they would have anyway, and fresh chaff steps up.

With Bogarus, you've got lots of mages with low paths and Astral. I'd say your best bet is reverse communions and spew your favorite elemental damage. Falling Fires/Thunderstrikes/Magma Eruption/Astral Fires.

If it's any consolation, that Shedu is probably toast, assuming he survived the battle. I don't think the Horror Mark is resistable.

krpeters · #5 January 7th, 2011, 07:21 PM

Heh, the Shedu survived about three turns before my troops ate him. That's what annoyed me so much -- my troops could have handled him easily enough, but my mages decided to "help" and kill a good number of my own guys.