Map: 2 New maps: Otherland and Spheres

[lch]

Originally Posted by Edratman

Okay Ich, you've got me. I've looked at the top left 4 times. What am I not seeing?

Does this look familiar to you? I'm not sure if it's really related, but it looks very similar.

[Edratman]

Sorry Ich, I just don't see that.

[Gandalf Parker]

The threats and verbal abuse came from you Sombre and it was in IRC, not the forums.

Not the first comment Ive heard about the IRC channel.
Thats one of the reasons we have another one available here. On the Quink Links button at the top of the forum is a link for FLashChat. Check it out.

[llamabeast]

Aha, it's an ophanim (ophan?) in the top left!

[Aezeal]

Well I still totally don't like the tone or the conclusions from the OP, I think his posts till now are somewhat insulting and for me personally there is 0 difference by just being insulting and being insulting by calling names (which could lead to me reponding to insults with bad language when I can't be bothered to post a decent reply.. which again get's me loads of whining on the net.. but enough about that). The fact the OP seems to regard his idea about adding dots to an existing picture as a stroke of genius is a somewhat strange view on mapmaking IMHO. (I can tell you I made a few maps that way and some with even a lil more effort and I will admit I copied this way of map making from others so it's not like you invented something new here.) Also there are a VERY large number of maps on the forum ranging from casual to strange and empty to fully scripted so I must say his remark that there are hardly any (original) maps is also somewhat of an insult to the mapmakers of the community.

I also think this community isn't very hostile (well, I am but the community on general isn't). New members which don't start out with a bad attitude (like me.. or you) usually get answers to their questions (though questions that are in the faq might get a short and sharp referal too the FAQ), hell I even try to reply to most post asking help and I'm probably one of the least helpfull pplz around here. (the ones complaining are usually pplz like you or pplz starting out with flat out demands for our beloved KO and JK to change this and this yesterday)

You keeping to referring to Sombre (probably) as being the meanest person around here (which can't be so since that is me) and that just won't do you much good since everyone here knows Sombre is a very helpfull member of this community, and has added so much very nice nations to dominions 3 and helped so much pplz with a lot of things and especially nation modding that it's just a strange thing to say. (Though Sombre seems to have a strange aversion to my dominions 3000 mod which does indicate something isn't quite alright behind the eyes and between his ears.)

To conclude my reply on your continued whining about abuse when IMHO you clearly started it yourself I want to say the following: please keep posting all maps you can make: I didn't like your first ones I do like one of these, but others might like them all so, (again) please keep posting them BUT LEAVE THE WHINING (complaints about abuse you deserve and how good what you do is) OUT (it will significantly shorten the long string of abuse you seem to be encountering). Thanks.

onto the maps:

I do like the 2nd map it seems actually playable and looks nice. Might be very nice for some small MP games.

I wonder though why every one likes the woodcut but not the map I made from an old london map but whatever. The woodcut doesn't seem that nice to play on but they are better then the last two.

[VALIS]

Originally Posted by Aezeal

I wonder though why every one likes the woodcut but not the map I made from an old london map but whatever. The woodcut doesn't seem that nice to play on but they are better then the last two.

I like the old London map - it's one of my favorites.
-Campbell

[Aezeal]

Well thank you, if you have tips to improve it I'll be happy to do so.

Once you have enough of just adding dots to pictures (and if you know my map you know it's not a new idea ) you should try modding maps with creatures etc too. Generally about 1-2 pplz download them (well mine anyway) but it's pretty fun to think up of things to mod. My multi layer map is out there too (but when I didn't get much feedback I stopped updating it rather quickly so there are some errors in it I think) and it's might be fun to try to if you like different and chokepoints.

OF course the best of the best () in map modding and general modding and probably one of the largest mods currently out there is my dominions 3000 mod (with thanks to several others for their contributions of course) and it's solar system map.

Anyway enough advertizing, and don't think that complimenting me will make me any nicer.

PS I'd personally think that more of those satelite maps would be greatly appreciated by a relative large part of the community, your one is basicly a pretty standard map (I mean it features land and sea etc) but looks incredibly nice

[Alderanas]

hmm these are very interesting maps even though the star one is a bit confusing the first time i played it. Couldnt quite figure out what was goin on but nice maps none the less.

[innerpattern]

Long time lurker, first time poster...
I like your fresh perspective on map making for Dominions. I think you were a bit over the top upon first impression (thus some of the backlash) in both attitude and map style but that is the past this is now...

We are seeing two distinct styles from you now, one quite abstract, the other more traditional (really like the "otherland" map by the way) and while I appreciate what you are trying to do with the abstract maps, abstraction without accessibility (in this case playability) is severely limiting when offered for public consumption.

I believe that if you combined abstraction with traditional we would see some of the best maps ever created (or found) for Dominions.

The landscape portions of "spheres" is quite close I think.

Thank you for your maps!

-IP

[JimMorrison]

I will try to be as polite as I can.

You got negative reactions to your personality, MUCH more than your maps.

I am not going to list all of the negative personality traits that you have displayed in this short area you have already claimed for yourself in this forum - if you can't read your own words and say "wow if that was someone else I'd think he was a jerk", then that only makes you a hypocrite, or insane.

Plus, your maps are really not very good. That is, in the sense of that it is a map, that is somehow representative of some foreign land, where my loyal minions may be fighting for domination. I want to take over a world, not a rhinoceros or a wig.


Oh and to reiterate - you're not an artist, you're just someone with a bad idea, and an inability to handle criticism, even when it's dressed up with friendly teasing. But I'm not teasing, because you have displayed a striking lack of sense of humor, so I am just being completely honest with you. Next time you accuse nice, friendly, and playful people as being threatening or hostile, just imagine that you may have insulted their hard work (maps they spent weeks polishing) to give them something you hardly worked on. And to clarify - Ballbarian didn't tell you to "manipulate people", all he basically said was that people would be nicer if you weren't such a prick. This is me telling you, you're still acting like a prick - and over some misguided premise that your maps are somehow superior to real maps.


I will continue to look forward to your understanding of mapmaking to improve, as well as your personality.

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