So no Dominions 4?

[sector24]

Dominions 3 has an extremely high entertainment/value ratio. But it comes with a very high opportunity cost, i.e. you're paying $55 for what might be junk when you could pay instead pay $30 for another game that might be junk.

[JimMorrison]

Theonlystd said:
Supposedly GTA 4 cost over 100million dollars to develop..

And if anything just goes to my point. You take out the "tithe" as you said.. And you'd have games that tooks years and millions upon millions to make selling cheaper than a 2 year old indy game with subpar graphics...

You're kidding me, right?

Budweiser is cheap as hell. Why is that? Because they sell well over 50 million kegs of it every year. Does it cost them a small fortune to produce that much beer? Of course it does, but they make their profit on volume.

Take Rogue Brewery here in Oregon, or any other local micro-brewery for comparison. Their production costs are fairly low, they do things by hand, with a small crew. Guess what? Their beer costs 3x as much as Bud, and it's not going to get any cheaper, no matter how much complaining there is from people without refined tastes.

Conversely, if you want to compare price-vs-cost between Dominions and high profile studio titles, you are only showing that you are not capable of making the distinction between what makes the one game good, and what makes the other game sell.

You have lost this argument ten times so far in this thread, but obviously you can't see or accept that fact either.....

[Sombre]

Because they're in a completely different market and beyond also being video games aren't really comparable.

[JimMorrison]

sector24 said:you're paying $55 for what you might think is junk when you could pay instead pay $30 for another game that probably is junk.

Fixed. >.>

[S.R. Krol]

Theonlystd said:
I know about the the lisencing fees or whatever one calls it to have a game released for the console and that the hardware is sold at a loss.. But production costs,and development time and all that is a factor to .

Supposedly GTA 4 cost over 100million dollars to develop..

And if anything just goes to my point. You take out the "tithe" as you said.. And you'd have games that tooks years and millions upon millions to make selling cheaper than a 2 year old indy game with subpar graphics...

If I go see a movie that cost $150 million to make and then one that only cost $30 million to make I'm still paying $8 to see both. It is up to me, the consumer, to decide whether that $8 is equal in both cases.

Dominions III may not stand equal in the visual department of a 100 million dollar franchise, but it sure beats most where it counts: gameplay.

[Theonlystd]

JimMorrison said:

You're kidding me, right?

Budweiser is cheap as hell. Why is that? Because they sell well over 50 million kegs of it every year. Does it cost them a small fortune to produce that much beer? Of course it does, but they make their profit on volume.

Take Rogue Brewery here in Oregon, or any other local micro-brewery for comparison. Their production costs are fairly low, they do things by hand, with a small crew. Guess what? Their beer costs 3x as much as Bud, and it's not going to get any cheaper, no matter how much complaining there is from people without refined tastes.

Conversely, if you want to compare price-vs-cost between Dominions and high profile studio titles, you are only showing that you are not capable of making the distinction between what makes the one game good, and what makes the other game sell.

You have lost this argument ten times so far in this thread, but obviously you can't see or accept that fact either.....

Errr ok you've missed most of my points. Then some how decided who won or lost in a thread talking about a possible price cut..

O thank you Decider of who won the threads. The world is no doubt a better place with you making such crucial decisions .

[Theonlystd]

S.R. Krol said:

If I go see a movie that cost $150 million to make and then one that only cost $30 million to make I'm still paying $8 to see both. It is up to me, the consumer, to decide whether that $8 is equal in both cases.

Dominions III may not stand equal in the visual department of a 100 million dollar franchise, but it sure beats most where it counts: gameplay.

Dom3 is easily one my favorite games of all. Its graphics stink but its gameplay is awesome..

Im just suggesting a price cut.. And giving the impression i got from other people i've talked the game up to as to y they didnt find the game wroth the price.

[Tichy]

More importantly, Rogue makes really good beer.

[Kraftwerk]

Strangely even after being out for years it continues to be our top selling game. So what does that tell you?

That its a good game in a sea of sub par titles.

Charging 60 dollars is like people charging 10 dollar bottles of water in the desert.

Its not that the product is worth 60 dollars, its that its the only product around.

Fleecing people you are.

Just because people buy it, doesnt mean its a good deal. People spend their last dollar on crack. Does that make crack good? Or even a good value? Sure doesnt.

People would opt for the better value, if one existed, doesnt make any less morally reprehensible to charge over three times somethings value.

Not to mention if you dropped the price 15 dollars or so, so it was 45 bucks, youd sell alot more. 3x45 is more than 1x60. It really does keep people who would buy it (and more than likely end up modding for it, increasing the community, and therefor selling more copies, i'm a former team member of the Halflife Modification Day of Defeat. Valve software (the most successful on the planet) attributed a considerable number of sales to our mod. They even bought us out to develop the sequel inhouse.

You have to compete. You lose sales when a MP community finds a game (which has happened here before) they want to play, but all the members of that community dont have access to the game due to the price. After a short burst of interest, they move on to a game they can all play together.

Im sure your satisfied with the amount of money youre making, but you can always make more, and you can always increase the size of your fanbase, which can only help with future titles (and other titles), a large fanbase attracts more developers as well, as they want to be a part of whats going on.

But basically, its just too damned expensive for what it is. No average person in their right mind would purchase this game for the price it is. Grognards, enthusiasts, previous fans, and people starving for a quality game will, and if thats your goal, awesome, more power to yah Rockefellar

[MaxWilson]

Did someone just compare Dom3 to crack? Oh, my. That explains SO MUCH about my strange compulsions of late.

Just kidding. (I had pretty much killfiled this thread but I peeked back and couldn't resist the opening.)

-Max