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June 10th, 2008, 12:40 AM
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Re: Next patch
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Wokeye said:
It worries me that some experienced players will simply not play a vanilla game in favour of CB mod games - this is surely indicative of a set of well-recognised imbalances that should be addressed for the community to retain senior members.
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Not to start yet another CB flame war, but there are also plenty of veteran players who are of the opposite persuasion, including me.
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Starcraft was tweaked over time to make it into a Korean national sport, why shouldn't Dom3? Maybe we can claim a country too?
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I nominate Finland as we seem to have a nice bridgehead there already!
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June 10th, 2008, 01:04 AM
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Re: Next patch
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Not to start yet another CB flame war, but there are also plenty of veteran players who are of the opposite persuasion, including me.
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Apologies - based on recent posts I thought it was widely accepted as an improvement. *searches for forum CB flamewars*
Finland sounds fine. Iceland has EVE and Turkey has Mountnblade.
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June 10th, 2008, 01:31 AM
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Lieutenant General
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Re: Next patch
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Tyrant said:
Not to start yet another CB flame war, but there are also plenty of veteran players who are of the opposite persuasion, including me.
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I don't think anyone ever said all veteran players like the mod. However, I don't know of any veteran players that call it _less_ balanced and a lot that do prefer it.
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June 10th, 2008, 01:36 AM
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Re: Next patch
It's useful to have around and I mine it for rules occasionally. I like the things CB does with pretenders and scales. Generally I like additive mods more than subtractive ones.
I think the key thing is that many veteran players get attached to a ruleset and don't like having to play under a different one. (Gandalf Parker is an exception. )
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June 10th, 2008, 01:50 AM
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General
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Re: Next patch
No, I dont think thats the key thing. I know of many veterans who actually constantly seek new games with different rules and situations in order to expose themselves to new challenges. The reason why CB is favored is because it tries to give (at least) niche roles to every unit, spell, etc, instead of just accepting that some units are useless and others dominant.
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June 10th, 2008, 01:53 AM
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Re: Next patch
My 2 cents on an upcoming patch:
First of all, thanks IW! I had thought that the most recent patch might be the last and that you might be moving on to your next game. This will be a treat
As for suggestions, two things pop to mind:
- Increase the Global Spell limit (or make it a game setting), for huge games.
- Fix the Dome Stacking Bug
wait did they fix dome stacking in the last patch? I havent tested it...
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June 10th, 2008, 01:58 AM
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Lieutenant General
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Re: Next patch
Dome stacking is gone (at least the most abusive air dome kind).
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June 10th, 2008, 02:05 AM
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Re: Next patch
I will play the CB mod. In fact I am playing it right now in one MP game. It's good, but I prefer vanilla. I think the game should be played as most new players would play it, without mods.
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June 10th, 2008, 03:40 AM
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First Lieutenant
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Re: Next patch
I fail to see how CB makes all spells and units equally useful, to be honest. Still no use for vyvern, giant eagle and bog beast, etc etc.
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June 10th, 2008, 04:15 AM
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Lieutenant General
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Re: Next patch
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Kuritza said:
Still no use for vyvern, giant eagle and bog beast, etc etc.
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This is always debatable, but I've used wyverns, for instance, to great effect in CB. Try MA Man and use dragon master and you can get a very large force early game. I have used and seen used:
Summon animals
Summon Bane
Summon Sea Dogs
Prison of Fire
Bind Bone Fiends
Harm
Summon Sea lions
... etc.
And that's just the spells.
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