no hero bonus for the fire mage

Wish · #1 January 21st, 2007, 01:21 AM

is this a bug?

In on game I have both fire kings dropping flames from the sky every turn. despite being #1 and #4 on the hall of fame with around 1000 kills each, (give or take,) and neither of them have a hero bonus.

This made sense to me, a new feature for dom 3 -- you get on the board by using spells which are completely anonymous, well it makes sense that you don't get to reap the rewards of being legendary... the general public don't know its you anyway.

In another game I have caelum's Fire angel, whatever he's called, decked out in gear and stomping armies by tossing flame storm at them, two, three times, then cleaning up with falling fires.

this guy, he's in battle, face to face, reigning firey terror down on his enemies... top of the list in his game for having slaughtered so many... but --- but he also has no hero bonus.

this time it doesn't make sense to me... is this a bug? how is the later case explainable?

Wish · #2 January 21st, 2007, 02:15 AM

the more I look at various cases, it appears that it is a problem inherent in all unique units - that they do not get a hero bonus.

Meglobob · #3 January 21st, 2007, 02:53 AM

Yea, I have troll kings with kills in the 1000's and they do not get a hero bonus, they are doing there killing via multiple earthquakes...

Wish · #4 January 21st, 2007, 03:31 AM

I had the problem with a banefire king, who was doing his killing by hand.... (or rather banefire shield, I imagine)

troll kings aren't unique... so how the heck does this work?

Endoperez · #5 January 21st, 2007, 06:16 AM

AFAIK, uniques are not supposed to get heroic abilities, other units are, and troll kings get heroic abilities.

Meglobob · #6 January 21st, 2007, 06:21 AM

Quote:

Endoperez said:
AFAIK, uniques are not supposed to get heroic abilities, other units are, and troll kings get heroic abilities.

My bad...just checked the game with my troll kings and yes they do have heroic abilities.

Must have got them mixed up with my uniques.

HoneyBadger · #7 January 22nd, 2007, 01:25 AM

Boo for no heroic abilities for named units from the SC peanut gallery (it's ok that you can have a thousand unnamed units with every ability in Dev's green creation, but not ok to have one named unit?).

Anyway, this thread makes me want to make unique troll kings.

Gandalf Parker · #8 January 22nd, 2007, 08:58 PM

Does "Flames from the Sky" count as personal kills for anyone?

Wish · #9 January 22nd, 2007, 09:52 PM

yep, all distance damage spells count as kills.

danm · #10 January 23rd, 2007, 05:41 PM

does that mean you could end-run the "can't know how effective Flames was without a spy" if you paid attention to the mages XP?

I've not been in a situation where I really cared enough to pay attention, but someone more micromanagey than I might be interested in that "workaround" assuming it works.