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Old December 10th, 2005, 03:11 AM
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Default OT: Die music fans, die!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4508158.stm

Posted some lyrics of songs of your favorite band online? Prepare to be thrown in jail!

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Mr Keiser said he did not just want to shut websites and impose fines, saying if authorities can "throw in some jail time I think we'll be a little more effective".
I sure hope the music industry dies soon...

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Default Re: OT: Die music fans, die!

OK, so if you bought a CD and want to know what it is they're singing or if you want to be able to play it yourself, you'll be facing legal action?!? WTF kind of bullsh*t is this?!? And where does this guy get the idea that finding lyrics online is depriving the songwriter of his work/income? Does he even know what he's talking about? Jesus!
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"Does he even know what he is talking about?"

Chances are no, no he does not. It is just a way for him to justify his huge six figure consulting fee of a salary.

Its like the movie industry saying piracy is the sole reason why box office sales are down when in fact its people fed up to the rafters with having to pay $10.50 to see a half hour of commericals before the movie previews even begin.

This is just another fine example of the music industrys never ending line of bull**** designed to rip people off.
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Default Re: OT: Die music fans, die!

OYu know an interesting thing that I found online some time ago when I was looking for sheet music to some popular songs at the time (I play piano), I was having trouble finding songs that had both the lyrics and the written music on the same paper for free. I could get what I wanted if I paid for it. It turns out that record companies (who are the actual owners of the songs) don't mind if you put up either the words or the sheet music for free, you just can't put them up together on the same page.
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Default Re: OT: Die music fans, die!

Didn't mind the legal action for illegally sharing/distributing songs (yes, I know, nomenclature: Worms, can of, one each) but certainly this has crossed the line of what's fair in pursuit of profits. Not sure how this cuts back on sales as I've never known ANYONE who said they needed to purchase an album/CD so they could find out what the words were to a specific song.

I guess, the next step will be not being allowed to repeat the words outloud.
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I think the best thing to do is to start a movement against the Music Industry. A movement that boycotts the industry because of its bull**** tactics and utter refusal to accept and embrace the desires and wishes of their customer base.

Give us what we want, nothing more, give us the songs, lyrics, what the ***k ever at a fair price, in any medium we want, and keep the fluff and bull**** where it belongs, in the recycle bin.

To bad artists can't just go direct to the public and bypass these fat, over paid, greedy, narrow minded, selfish, elitist jerks who run the Record Industry.
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Default Re: OT: Die music fans, die!

Here here.

I think these guys are going to be taking a lot of flak from customers and artists alike in the coming period, when this story hits the "regular" (i.e. old-fashioned, non-Internet) news media all over the States. We've not seen the last of this, mark my words.
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Default Re: OT: Die music fans, die!

Can I quote you on that, or do I have to pay you royalities?
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Dear lord. So if I buy a CD, and the lyrics aren't included with it (which is becoming more and more often the case), and I go pull them off the net coz I can't understand some of it, I'm 'depriving an artist of his livelyhood'? I just BOUGHT his CD FFS!
When I hear stuff like that it puts me in the mood to go and download every single album I can think of, because if the industry is right, this will lead to the destruction of the music industry, the sacking of corporate fat-cats (I'd prefer the shooting thereof, but it's an imperfect world), and the chance for a new system to be created that's based on art and not profit.
God, I wish they were right.
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Default Re: OT: Die music fans, die!

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To bad artists can't just go direct to the public and bypass these fat, over paid, greedy, narrow minded, selfish, elitist jerks who run the Record Industry.
The Independent music industry is gaining more and more oomph all the time. You can find songs by independent artisits quite easily on online music stores like Itunes. Just as easily as big labels, in fact. Even though I would never purchase music containing any form of Digital Restrictions Management technology, I must still applaud Apple for making it easy for independent labels to get their music sold online, as opposed to B&M stores that only want to sell the latest Spears and 50 cents.
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