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Old September 15th, 2001, 02:01 AM
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Default OT: War Bill, write your congress......

Please write your senator and Reps.

Tell them to vote for H.R. RES. 62 and S.J.Res.23 (senate as already passed S.J. RES. 23, they still need to vote on H.R. RES. 62)
Declaring a state of war between the United States and international terrorists and their sponsors.

Thank you for your time.

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Default Re: OT: War Bill, write your congress......

Heh. The senate passed SJR 23 by a vote of 98-0. Zero Senators voted against.

I don't think you need to write and convince anyone to vote for it.

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Default Re: OT: War Bill, write your congress......

Only 1 in the house voted aganist the use of force. See if she gets re-elected...

but there is always one in every world war...

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Default Re: OT: War Bill, write your congress......

Her vote wasn't against taking action - but to remind Mr.Bush that he has to go through Congress next time there needs to be military action.

Listen carefully to her speech.

I commend her for standing up and not letting emotions take full control of the situation.

While I want the terrorists to be killed/captured - I don't more innocent people to suffer - whether they are American or Afghani or whatever.

"An eye for an eye makes the world go blind"

Destroying some third world despot country will not bring back the victims of this tragedy.
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Default Re: OT: War Bill, write your congress......

Your right on the deaths, but waging a war to find and wipe out terrorist should be a key priority now. Sad it had to come to this to do it.

I think any war on Terrorism needs to be done in two phases..

To quote a Roman...

"First our Neighbors, then the World."
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Default Re: OT: War Bill, write your congress......

Since we are quoting Romans, let us go back an have a look at a Greek. Plato (I believe) had some interesting things to say about how crisis situations could lead a democracy to elect a tyrant, feeling it was the best thing for them to do. When the crisis past, they found it was tough to get the powers they had given away back. Thus, the end of the democracy.

I would be interested to know the name of the Congresswoman who was so bold to stand and remind both the politicians and the people that one of the strengths of America is that it is a free and open society where the head of state is, and must be, accountable to the people. The 40 billion dollars voted to the effort is a lot of money. The legality of wire taps are being reviewed. Has America voted away some of it�s freedoms?

The crisis must be responded to, as quickly and as efficiently as possible. However, it must be done in a way which preserves the essential nature of America. Unity is good, but questioning is also good. America has many long and respected traditions to maintain, a real challenge in times of crisis.
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Default Re: OT: War Bill, write your congress......

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I would be interested to know the name of the Congresswoman who was so bold to stand and remind both the politicians and the people that one of the strengths of America is that it is a free and open society where the head of state is, and must be, accountable to the people.



Her name was Barbara Lee, a democratic from Berkley. My new hero in american politics (never knew I had one).


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Default Re: OT: War Bill, write your congress......

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Originally posted by capt_spoogy:
Her vote wasn't against taking action - but to remind Mr.Bush that he has to go through Congress next time there needs to be military action.

Listen carefully to her speech.

I commend her for standing up and not letting emotions take full control of the situation.

While I want the terrorists to be killed/captured - I don't more innocent people to suffer - whether they are American or Afghani or whatever.

"An eye for an eye makes the world go blind"

Destroying some third world despot country will not bring back the victims of this tragedy.




Excellently said. Thank you.

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Default Re: OT: War Bill, write your congress......

Heard a good opinion on this yestrday.

Rather than bomb the already starving ppl in Afghanistan, how about if NATO responded by filling up their bombers with food and dropping *that* on them. Put a big American flag and a few words in Afghanistani (arabic?) on each parcel so there can be no mistake as to who it's from.

See how many suicide bombers Bin Laden can recruit after *that*.

Obviously it's not a perfect plan (I think you'd need to arrest / assasinate a few leading terrorists as well, just to satisfy the need for justice / revenge) but it's certainly an interesting idea.

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That's going to confuse the hell out of someone!

But it's not a bad idea. I just hope another somolia doesn't happen.....

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