Possible bug in airborne drops

scJazz · #1 July 5th, 2005, 07:28 PM

I'm not sure if this is a bug or an undocumented design feature. I am in the middle of designing my 1st scenario and during Alpha testing noticed some really bizarre behaviour regarding Airborne Drops.

Question: Do certain types of LEG Infantry have a penalty for taking damage during a drop?

Listy · #2 July 5th, 2005, 08:37 PM

IIRC: Yes, anything other than a Para or Airborne APC/Light Tank takes extra damage in a drop.

WingNut · #3 July 5th, 2005, 09:41 PM

Yeah, they don't take too kindly to being pushed out of the aircraft without a parachute...

kevin · #4 July 5th, 2005, 10:24 PM

Also, don't let the Airborne Light Tank / APC fool you. They are not dropable. There is a long post on this subject under paratrooper question

PlasmaKrab · #5 July 6th, 2005, 03:05 AM

All infantry types take damage on drop, even dedicated para units. Admittedly they tend to lose less guys and take less suppression, because of supposed better training.

Other infantry types tend to break necks all to often, but that is meant to compensate for the fact that the game allows vehicles to be dropped ready to go.

Also watch out on what ground they land: it is very hard to swim under a parachute or the land feet first with 80lb. pack in a rock garden. Oh, always better than head first!

SCAJolly · #6 July 6th, 2005, 08:04 AM

I feel the need to repeat myself: In the case of BMDs at least, there will ALWAYS be causalties (and the BMD only has a crew of 2). This can't be tolerated, as it's over the edge of silly.

Arralen · #7 July 6th, 2005, 08:17 AM

So you expect to strap a 'chute on a BMD and toss it out of the back of a plane and it coming out of this without any scratch??

Obviously, the makers/deployers of the thing do think that way, too:
"The BMD-3 can be airdropped from transport aircraft with the complete crew of seven men remaining inside the vehicle. In the past, the crew was dropped separately, and it often took a considerable time for them to locate the vehicle."
http://www.armscontrol.ru/atmtc/Arms...cles.htm#bmd-3

I would be interested in real figures about drop casualties, though

Shadowcougar · #8 July 6th, 2005, 08:42 AM

Ittakes a way braver man than me to be straped into a AFV, rigged with a chute and pushed out of a aircraft.

Sorry, I might jump with the rest of the men(trid to join Army but no MCL, no ACL no join) but not in a AFV. I think I would need to see where I am falling to. even if I can't do anthing about it.

SCAJolly · #9 July 6th, 2005, 09:04 AM

If the unit is labeled "airborne" I don't see a reason the size greater than a molecule for why one should have this feature if one can't get the crew down in one piece! I'm not arguing that it's realistic or unrealistic, well I actually am, but if it is a "realistic" feature which has been added by intention, I think that realism could be much more well spent somewhere else.

Why would you buy a tank platoon if the tracks fell apart after 500 metres?

@SC: I think the crews are parachuted separatly, at least in Russia. That, or given great amounts of vodka. (Or maybe both.) Unfortunately, that is impossible to do in winSP, at least to this date.

Shadowcougar · #10 July 6th, 2005, 10:32 AM

It might take great amounts of vodka to get me in a BMD much less drop in one. I can't believe the Russian would drop the crews but you can never tell. The Soviets might of.