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[Shadowcougar]

I agree with the no 8 of Arralen post.
I agree about no 5. Tank transporters are slow but they are way to slow in the game.
Fo didn't shoot at me. found him at short range.

[Double_Deuce]

Arralen said:[*]there should be at least _some_ guards at the ASP ?!

Not sure but in the old SPMBT you cannot have AUX units in the 1st scenario of a campaign. At least I could never get them to show up.

Arralen said:[*]G3 heavy (tank) transport is so slow .. you won't get him to the ASP within 15 turns

The G3 Heavy Tank transport was use to represent the US M88 Recovery vehicle (not in the current OOB of WinSPMBT).

Arralen said:[*]is this supposed to happen in Germany? There are _very_ few wooden houses here.[/list]

Yes, in Baumholder, Germany. The ASP's were never near (at least ours wasn't) any built up or inhabited areas. It was on the military reservation.

[Shadowcougar]

did you get my email about battle 3. sent to playtest address

[Skirmisher]

You can't have AUX units in the first scenerio of a campaign.Why do the guards need to be AUX units?
Just curious.

The tank transport doesn't need to go anywhere to finish the scenerio.I just parked it and advanced on the enemy.


I playtested this scenerio myself,as well as the second one.I never recieved the rest to check out.

[Double_Deuce]

Skirmisher said:
You can't have AUX units in the first scenerio of a campaign.Why do the guards need to be AUX units?

In a campaign any unit NOT toggled to AUX/FIX will become part of the core forces for the entire campaign.

[Double_Deuce]

Shadowcougar said:
did you get my email about battle 3. sent to playtest address

The one with the Paratroopers? If so, yes.

[Skirmisher]

Double_Deuce said:

In a campaign any unit NOT toggled to AUX/FIX will become part of the core forces for the entire campaign.

Oh your talking about US forces,I thought he meant Russian guards for thier HQ.

[Shadowcougar]

no the one about the invisible czech units.

[Mobhack]

Arralen said:
1st scenario comments
(bunch of saves is attached)

1. Soviet HQ is not a problem: load turn 14, move B0/c1 toward the NE vic hexes, and dismount the inf squad from C .. you'll find the soviet HQ dismounted at 143/22
2. a0 is inf commander
3. H0 is a headquarter ??
4. there should be at least _some_ guards at the ASP ?!
5. G3 heavy (tank) transport is so slow .. you won't get him to the ASP within 15 turns
6. is this supposed to happen in Germany? There are _very_ few wooden houses here.
7. set red arty observer to range=0, or better remove their weapons alltogether
8. there are very few spetzaz, and they choose bad places for their attacks. Butchered most of them a) in the "valley" in front of the ASP, where all units where able to fire at them, and there was little cover for them, and b) in the SE corner of the complex, when they tried to cross the open area.

Another way of looking at it is stone is "heavy" or "traditional" construction, and wooden as "modern" or "light-weight" construction materials.

Traditional - brick or stone or concrete built with substantiial ((tiled or slated) roofing on a substantial backing frame. tenement flats, old brick-works type factories, traditional farm steadings etc.

Modern - mainly glass, corrugated iron, aluminium or light "pressed stone" walling, and especially, light roofing (not walk-safe) such as flat tar-waterproofed or corrugated iron or similar roofing, on little or no backing frame which will tend to provide less protection from plunging arty and mortar fires. Modern estate housing, pre-fab housing, shopping strips, light industrial estate buildings, farm outbuildings etc.


Andy

[Arralen]

Mobhack said:

Traditional - brick or stone or concrete built with substantiial ((tiled or slated) roofing on a substantial backing frame. tenement flats, old brick-works type factories, traditional farm steadings etc.

Modern - mainly glass, corrugated iron, aluminium or light "pressed stone" walling, and especially, light roofing (not walk-safe) such as flat tar-waterproofed or corrugated iron or similar roofing, on little or no backing frame which will tend to provide less protection from plunging arty and mortar fires. Modern estate housing, pre-fab housing, shopping strips, light industrial estate buildings, farm outbuildings etc.

Few "modern housing" then, as well, especially that far out "in the wild"
Maybe this would "qualify" because of being mostly wood:
Farm houses, 400+ years
http://www.vogtsbauernhof.org/

Typical "land house" (>100 years old) will be timber-framed, often filled with quarrystone, or half-timbered like this:
http://www.carto.net/neumann/travell...chsenstadt.jpg
Some reconstructions have been made using bricks:
http://www.baudeck-leo.de/Fachwerkhaus-Rieth.jpg

Lots of old land and farm houses are made with very little timber frame. Walls are 30-40cm, roof is pan-tiled and walk (and tree-) save ...
http://www.spd-luecklemberg.de/_priv...hsteinhaus.jpg

A typical town house from 1900+ has 25-40 cm brick walls and pan tile roof, but wooden ceilings.

A typical post-war house (1945+) has thinner walls, but steel-reinforced concrete ceilings of 12cm+.
Bricks have become more and more lightweight through the years, though.

So, all in all, I think 95% of the qualifiy as "stone buildings".