Cloaking and Ship Trainers

[Deathstalker]

Now I could be wrong in this....but cloaked ships do NOT gain the bonus from ship training facilities (although the fleet bonus is still gained). I was noticing this on a planet that has both fleet and ship trainers, the fleets were getting the bonus, as were de-cloaked ships but cloaked ships were not.

Was just wondering if anyone else noticed this/can confirm this....is this a bug??
Or am I just buggy?

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[PsychoTechFreak]

I can confirm this, but I am not sure if it is a bug or maybe the same idea as with cloaked SY ships ( the trainers should better see what they train ). I had a fleet- and a ship training facility, but IIRC the fleet bonus has not been increased also with a completely cloaked fleet, could it be that one ship of your fleet was decloaked ?

[Deathstalker]

Nope, the whole fleet was cloaked and accrued a bonus, but the individual ships were not gaining a bonus. Also seems to be a 'bug' in sim-move, I de-cloaked the fleet to train, then added more ships to the fleet, the following turn the fleet still had the formerly cloaked ships cloaked and the newly added members not cloaked, so it followed the second order but forgot about the first.

and as an edit, a cloaked ship may not build, but it still can repair (check when you cloak a ship space yard, the symbol changes from the 'crane' to a 'wrench')..

[This message has been edited by Deathstalker (edited 26 August 2001).]

[capnq]

I've also noticed that cloaked ships don't show up on the Retrofit screen.

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[Askan Nightbringer]

I happened to have noticed that if a cloaked ship with stealth armour moves through one of those damaging warp point thingies, the armour may be destroyed but the ship is still cloaked.

The other thing too is that any partners you have can't see your cloaked ship...but I wonder if you had some sort of hypers optics or something would your partners then be able to see you ships if they were in a system with one of your hyper optics satellites (or something similiar)? Can the ship training facility see them as well?

Askan

[geoschmo]

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Originally posted by askan:
The other thing too is that any partners you have can't see your cloaked ship...but I wonder if you had some sort of hypers optics or something would your partners then be able to see you ships if they were in a system with one of your hyper optics satellites (or something similiar)?

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Yeppers.

If fact, if a cloaked ship has sensors onboard, your partner can now see your cloaked ship with it's own sensors. Kind of goofy.

Geo

[Deathstalker]

Another little thing about cloaking, if you have no supplies the cloak disappears, ie, cloaked miners (robominers) use 100 supplies/turn, when the supplies are gone the ship appears with 'no gas', makes for an inviting target