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December 4th, 2000, 06:27 PM
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Next Patch?
Between range error checks, and the my games getting toasted I'm not impreesed. When can we expect the next patch? And will it fix these problems? Think I'll wait 'till then to play again as right know SEIV is just fustrating.
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December 4th, 2000, 11:15 PM
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Re: Next Patch?
They are working on it. We just got a download for the beta testers to work with today. MM is aware of the problems and is working on them. Please remember, if you find a bug or have a problem, send it to them so that they can address it.
They really are trying to put the best possible product out to all of us. No just good enough, but the best.
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December 4th, 2000, 11:22 PM
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Re: Next Patch?
Comar:
Yes, and it shows in the way they respond to the customers comments and request! I was very happy to see that one of the changes that I lobbied for and supported was included in the 1.11 patch.
Something else that I mentioned that I'd like to pass along to y'all....PLEASE include a list of which Data Files have been altered with new Patch items. There are ALOT of Data Files (especially once you get into the individual AI files for 20 races) and trying to go through them all to see if anything has been changed is a mindblowing task.
A simple listing of the files that have any changes from the previous build could go a long way towards saving the sanity of those of us who have heavily customized our sets.
Thanx!
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December 5th, 2000, 03:35 AM
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Re: Next Patch?
Danny how are you getting range check errors ? What happens ? In the beta i've only gotten them under very specific circumstances so maybe it is something you can avoid. By the way, MM did 17(!) patches on SE3 if I remember right, not because it was overly buggy but because people asked for them.
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December 5th, 2000, 04:54 AM
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Re: Next Patch?
I got the error when I set the max. system to 255, changed it down to 200 and it works fine, even in my current game with 255 systems.
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December 5th, 2000, 05:50 AM
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Re: Next Patch?
I'm just a beta tester, not an employee of either company. Check the history file in your game whenever you put a patch in. The changes are in the history file.
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December 5th, 2000, 06:09 AM
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Re: Next Patch?
Comar:
Yep, I knew you were a tester, so I just figured that maybe you could pass it along with your testing suggestions/comments.
The 'History' File indeed lists all the changes, but not WHERE they were changed. Some are obvious data tweaks, but things like 'AI was getting way to fast...fixed' could be anywhere, including in code that we dont have access to. So, my suggestion was just to provide a list of exactly which files had alterations so that a 'file compare' can be done on them to add the changes to existing data sets. Without that list, we are forced to do a compare on EVERY file that we have altered, regardless of whether a change was made there or not, just to be sure.
The reason I mentioned it here is that I figure that since MM is pretty much a one man show, that it might be easier to fit this request in through one of the already established testers.
Thanx,
Talenn
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December 5th, 2000, 06:38 AM
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Re: Next Patch?
I support Talenn's suggestion 100%. It would spare the modding community a whole lot of headache each time a new patch is released.
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December 5th, 2000, 07:35 AM
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Re: Next Patch?
Danny-That's an easy one. I posted the problem around the very first days of release. Anytime you go over 254 systems max you get weird results. I know it says 255 is the max but if you want to finish your game never go over 254, problem solved.
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December 5th, 2000, 11:15 AM
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Re: Next Patch?
quote: MM did 17(!) patches on SE3 if I remember right, not because it was overly buggy but because people asked for them.
Adamus,
If that's the case, then Malfador has sure backed up their claims of listening to players, and then some! That lends an air of serene expectation to see what good things get done next, rather than desperately hoping that problems get fixed before the company loses interest, as was the unfortunate case with some other recent 4X games (Birth of the Federation springs to mind, as does Imperium Galactica II).
Wendell
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