OT - We never landed on the Moon

SunDevil · #1 February 16th, 2001, 05:37 PM

Did anyone watch the Fox special on tv Last night. I didn't really believe any of it until they talked about how the camera cross-hairs on the lens were behind some objects and about the whole radiation belt that surrounds the earth. It does make you wonder why the russians haven't at least attempted to go to the moon.

The show was quite entertaining, but I will wait until 2003, when the Japenese send a satellite to the moon, and take pictures of the surface.

Atrocities · #2 February 16th, 2001, 06:03 PM

FOX is crap. That special is just like the Alien Aurtopsy (sp) thing. We did go to the moon, we did land on the moon, infact several times.

WE HAVE MOON ROCKS. Remember Apollo 13? That ought to convince anyone that WE did at least go around the moon.

This "we did not land on the moon" crap is as old as the stories that Elvis is still alive.

dmm · #3 February 16th, 2001, 06:11 PM

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Originally posted by SunDevil:
It does make you wonder why the russians haven't at least attempted to go to the moon.

The cold war is the strongest argument against this silly theory. If NASA had faked the whole thing, don't you think the Soviets would have been extremely delighted to expose such an example of capitalist-pig deceit and incompetence? Or are we to believe that Kruschev, Breshnev, and friends were part of the conspiracy?

jimbob55 · #4 February 16th, 2001, 06:14 PM

ELVIS IS ALIVE + WELL and serving burgers in my local burger king!

we have moon rocks..... um, it's rock. We have Mars rock as well and we haven't been there yet (At least that's what THEY want us to believe....).

The russians have been to the moon with several roving robots. They've also sent probes to venus (all the way to the surface)

Remember apollo 13? What about it? It was an average movie. Remember the actual events of apollo 13? I wasn't on board so I have no evidence that it went anywhere near the moon. All I have is hearsay evidence from some guys who work for the military that things happened as they did.

There is evidence to suggest that the pictures and films were faked. This is not evidence that the lunar landings didn't happen either.

LeTharg · #5 February 16th, 2001, 06:24 PM

Personally I don't believe in Cleveland. I've never been there myself...I think it is a government plot to make everyone else content with their own city.

On the other hand I do believe we went to the moon. At the time of the first moon landing, I was watching on TV from a friends basement (yes, I'm old enough to remember). There was a thunderstorm outside and water had collected on the basement floor. Just as the first man stepped on the moon, lightening hit the house, went around the baseboard in the basement, jumped in the water and went down the drain. My friend and I got mild shocks.

I interpret the lightening as certification from God that man really stepped on the moon (and God wasn't happy). What more can you ask for? By the way my friend's father was a minister.

Triumvir Emphy · #6 February 16th, 2001, 06:25 PM

Faked is such an ugly word, how about retouched. Besides the international spacestation is obviously just a large sound stage in an arizona desert. And every body please be quite so we don't wake up the turtle that balances the "flat" earth on its back.

People with government conspiracy theories need to take up AD&D or something to give their imagination something to do.

henk brouwer · #7 February 16th, 2001, 06:34 PM

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Originally posted by Triumvir Emphy:
People with government conspiracy theories need to take up AD&D or something to give their imagination something to do.

Or they could use their imagination to make speech files and race sets for SE4....

raynor · #8 February 16th, 2001, 06:37 PM

I have my own reasons for why I believe we went to the moon. If we were going to fake a NASA mission, why couldn't we fake going someplace a whole lot more interesting than the moon? Sure, if the Russians were going to fake something, they would think small like the moon. But we Americans would fake going someplace much nicer. I've heard Venus is great place to visit. Venusian women and all. Don't believe all that stuff about it being the hottest planet. The folks who tell you that are the same ones who think you can't go to the sun because it's so hot. Just go at night, silly!

Seriously, I agree with the earlier Cold War post that said the main motivation for going to the moon when we did was to get there before the Russians did. If you recall, they were beating us in the space race.

If we could spend 'X' amount of dollars in 1969 and walk on the moon, I might imagine that the cost, while still quite significant, would be much cheaper today. But why walk on the moon a second time? Isn't that just a needless waste of money? I don't think anyone seriously believes we can't walk on the moon with current technology and resources. So, if we haven't gone walked on the moon in the Last 10 years, this pretty much confirms in my mind that there isn't any point until you have the resources and technology to establish a semi-permanent base there. The important thing was getting there first. Once we had done it, it was pointless for the Russians to prove that they could too, IMHO.

apache · #9 February 16th, 2001, 08:06 PM

Oh my GOD!! Please tell me no one here is really stupid enough to believe FOX that we did not go to the moon. If you believe that, then I have some ocean-front property in Colorado I am looking to sell.
What do you guys think we were doing with those massive Saturn V rockets sent up to space? Do you really think we would waste millions of dollars of money launching empty rockets into space? Many people watched them go into space just like you can watch the space shuttle take off today.
Why do you think NASA employs so many people? Most of them are physicists/engineers, not filmmakers and actors. Space is real, and if you believe we can cross the Atlantic and create a world wide web, why can you not belive we went to the moon?
Seriously people, if you do not believe we went to the moon, you are totally ignorant of the subject, and really should not be forming beliefs based on zero facts, or 'facts' from one side of the argument. Look into records, explanations, etc. that say how and why we went to the moon. If you can understand how we managed to get through the radiation belt and the whole engineering of space-flight capable craft, as well as understanding the physics of how each stage of the moon missions was done, then and only then can you sit there and tell people we did not go to the moon. But all the people that do understand those things do actually know that it was quite feasible to do, and that it could be done, and that there is no reason to believe we did not do it.
And as for cameras, I can claim that a picture you took right in front of me of some landmark or empty field was a fake. I can get any number of "experts" to say that such and such a thing is not right, and that the photograph was faked.
And finally, lets remember the source of this crap, FOX, the same people bringing you 'Temptation Island' and 'Who wants to marry a millionaire?' not to mention 'Alien Autopsy.'

Nitram Draw · #10 February 16th, 2001, 08:44 PM

I don't see how anyone could believe that the Government could keep a secret like this. That gives them too much credit. They can't even keep the Presidents sex life secret!
There are to many people involved. One of them would have appeared on Geraldo by now.!