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Fyron · #41 February 26th, 2003, 11:27 PM

Why the heck does Atrocities keep creating threads that spiral out of control?

Ragnarok · #42 February 26th, 2003, 11:27 PM

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The Christian God (and all other religions) is a creation of mankind to explain things that we can not explain otherwise.

So you're saying there is no God? That mankind made Him up? All you have to do is look around, look at the evidence, look through his Word (the Bible), and it is plain as day that there is a God.

Fyron · #43 February 26th, 2003, 11:28 PM

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Originally posted by Suicide Junkie:

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
No, light has constant velocity. Different wavelengths travel at marginally different speeds, but it is all constant. Light seeming to slow down in water and such is an optical illusion.

Same thing.
The initial wavefront moving thorugh the material goes right through at the speed of light.
The interference from the secondary EM waves generated by the atoms jostled by the main wave adds up to produce a new wave whos peaks and valleys change position slower than you'd expect.

Look at standing waves on a rope as a slowed down example. You start waving the rope (attached to a wall or a friend on the other side)
You see a succession of waves travel down the rope, hit the wall, and then reflect back, and start to interfere with the later waves you made.
When the two waves interfere in the rope, the total result is a wave that looks like it isn't moving at all.
The energy is still moving along at the normal speed, but the interference causes the illusion of slower (or faster (!)) velocities.
Given appropriate conditions, you can actually make the wave peaks appear to "travel" faster than C, but the far side of the apparatus will not light up until enough time has passed for a beam at speed C to travel the length of the apparatus.

Finally, someone joining the conversation that knows more physics than I do instead of someone that knows less.

Ragnarok · #44 February 26th, 2003, 11:29 PM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Why the heck does Atrocities keep creating threads that spiral out of control?

He's just good at it.

Fyron · #45 February 26th, 2003, 11:29 PM

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Originally posted by Ragnarok:

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The Christian God (and all other religions) is a creation of mankind to explain things that we can not explain otherwise.

So you're saying there is no God? That mankind made Him up? All you have to do is look around, look at the evidence, look through his Word (the Bible), and it is plain as day that there is a God.

From the smiley, I conclude that that is meant as a joke. Otherwise...

Ragnarok · #46 February 26th, 2003, 11:30 PM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

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Originally posted by Ragnarok:

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The Christian God (and all other religions) is a creation of mankind to explain things that we can not explain otherwise.

So you're saying there is no God? That mankind made Him up? All you have to do is look around, look at the evidence, look through his Word (the Bible), and it is plain as day that there is a God.
From the smiley, I conclude that that is meant as a joke. Otherwise...

No, from the smiley I mean I am not heated in the discussion and not about to argue the point.
I firmly believe what I posted.

Aloofi · #47 February 26th, 2003, 11:31 PM

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Originally posted by Greybeard:

I agree that the activities you list aren't good. However, I belive that there are angels and demons, and yes, the devil. Although we can't see these spiritual beings, they are around us and influence us for good and evil. I also believe that some evil people are aided by demons, just as believers can be aided by God's angels. A person must be very careful to not get caught up in the spiritual realm, as it is easy to be deceived....Greybeard

Are you serious?
You aren't trolling on us, aren't you?
Remember that the definition of trolling is to post and defend an idea in which you don't really believe just for your own amusement.

Fyron · #48 February 26th, 2003, 11:44 PM

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Originally posted by Ragnarok:

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

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Originally posted by Ragnarok:

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The Christian God (and all other religions) is a creation of mankind to explain things that we can not explain otherwise.

So you're saying there is no God? That mankind made Him up? All you have to do is look around, look at the evidence, look through his Word (the Bible), and it is plain as day that there is a God.
From the smiley, I conclude that that is meant as a joke. Otherwise...
No, from the smiley I mean I am not heated in the discussion and not about to argue the point.
I firmly believe what I posted.

In that case... why do you think the Bible is any evidence? Why is it (and hence Christianity) better than other religions? What makes it right, and everything else wrong?

The "evidence" in the Bible is only corroborated by the world around you because the authors of the Bible were good authors and wrote it as such.

[ February 26, 2003, 21:49: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

Ragnarok · #49 February 26th, 2003, 11:55 PM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
In that case... why do you think the Bible is any evidence? Why is it (and hence Christianity) better than other religions? What makes it right, and everything else wrong?

Because if you look into the Bible you will see that everything that it has said will happen, has indeed happened. There's not a single thing that was fortold in the Bible that didn't come true. So this being the case, why would any question the content in it?
I'm not going to argue the facts with you simply because I realize that I believe what I believe, and you believe what you believe.

Fyron · #50 February 26th, 2003, 11:56 PM

Umm... no. There are tons of things the Bible says happened and will happen that did not ever happen.

I would question the Bible's content because I am a thinking being. Everyone should question any book's content. Blindly accepting anything is horribly, horrible wrong. Even worse than having drastically wrong beliefs about the nature of reality, by many orders of magnitude.

[ February 26, 2003, 21:57: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]