Ship Tonnage? is there a max

Jasonsty · #1 February 20th, 2003, 01:02 AM

I been trying to create a mod with very large ships and some weird things happen.

Data vs in game
100mt = 35mt
250mt = 54mt
500mt = 42mt
750mt = 30mt
1000mt = 17mt
1500mt = 59mt
2000mt = 34mt

any incite will be helpful.

Andr�s · #2 February 20th, 2003, 01:24 AM

Max tonnag is 65,000 kt

Counted the actual number of components you can put in?
I think that's just a display conmfusion.

Check my Ultimate Vehicle Size Mod.

Jasonsty · #3 February 20th, 2003, 01:27 AM

Thanks

Puke · #4 February 20th, 2003, 08:54 AM

no, what he was seeing is the interger wrapping arround. after it counts passed 65K, it starts over.

Aloofi · #5 February 20th, 2003, 04:29 PM

Wow, who wants to build a ship that large?
It would take forever. Even with the hull price in zero, the components price would be stagering.
I don't even wanna think how many components can be put in it.....

And movement, 0.5 per turn?
The defense penalty would be so huge, that any weapon you fire from the other side of the battle map would have a 399% to hit.
What's the design name of this whale? "Battle-Planet", "Huge Battle-Planet with beautiful atmospheric light effects"?
You don't need combat sensors to hit that thing. Even if you put every single component that have a defense bonus in that monster you would still have a defense penalty of -100%.
How many facilities do you plan to build on this baby?
On the plus side, you don't need to worry no more about protecting your population. They can travel with you in your cargo hold....

[ February 20, 2003, 14:31: Message edited by: Aloofy ]

Jasonsty · #6 February 20th, 2003, 05:28 PM

I was planning to use components that were larger too. Everything you mentioned is editable. If I wanted the 2,000mt ship could have had a defensive bonus of 100%

I was trying to get the proper scale for battlespace(battletech). Will try it with 1/40 scale

Andr�s · #7 February 20th, 2003, 08:05 PM

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Originally posted by Puke:
no, what he was seeing is the interger wrapping arround. after it counts passed 65K, it starts over.

No a tonnage of 65536 or larger generates an error when loading the datafiles, you cannot pass that limit.

Andr�s · #8 February 20th, 2003, 08:17 PM

Building one of this things takes many decades and many resources. Only being able to do it is a display of power.
Minimun mov is 1.
Yes I'd given those large ships defense penalties of that order. This does not change range of weapons, as soon as the enemy is in range it will have 100% chance to hit.
I know that any kind of ECM is usless, the target is so large it's impossible to miss, but that's not a problem since it can also absorve a lot of damage, even if you can skip its shields and/or armor, you'll need a lot of firepower to make any significant damage.
Damage a ship of this size depends more on its multiplex tracking than on its weapons, with its massive firepower it will be able to destroy as many smaller ships as it can track each combat turn.

gregebowman · #9 February 20th, 2003, 08:23 PM

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Originally posted by Andr&eacutes Lescano:
Building one of this things takes many decades and many resources. Only being able to do it is a display of power.

This reminds me of a question I've had on my mind for awhile. Without using the cheat mode, how do you increase the speed of production? I mean, even when you're in full battle mode, it still takes awhile to build some of the bigger ships. And if you're in war and need those ships NOW!, how do you get them into the battle faster?

Ragnarok · #10 February 20th, 2003, 08:33 PM

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Originally posted by gregebowman:

quote:
Originally posted by Andr&eacutes Lescano:
Building one of this things takes many decades and many resources. Only being able to do it is a display of power.

This reminds me of a question I've had on my mind for awhile. Without using the cheat mode, how do you increase the speed of production? I mean, even when you're in full battle mode, it still takes awhile to build some of the bigger ships. And if you're in war and need those ships NOW!, how do you get them into the battle faster?

Put alot of points in your constuction rate before the game.

Choose Temperal before the game.

As far as when the game is already going... put your queues on emergency build. This helps some. But keep in mind, that for however long your queue is in "E build", once it goes off it will be in slow build for the same amount of time. Which means 25% production rate.