Atgm

EOT · #1 December 1st, 2011, 09:25 AM

ATGM's are a much more reliable piece of kit to use now.
Was there a mod done to these weapon platforms?
I use to curse at my ATGM (TOW) vehicles for their sup par performance, might as well been throwing rocks.

Depending on your opponent these are actually a viable option now and not wasted points.

Thanks in advance!!

DRG · #2 December 1st, 2011, 09:42 AM

Read the "Release History" section of the game guide.

EOT · #3 December 1st, 2011, 10:14 AM

I didn't find any upgrade info when looking at the release history

Which release patch in case I can't read?

Thanks in advance!!

EOT · #4 December 1st, 2011, 10:35 AM

Patch 4.5 21) Missile units with stabiliser can now move a couple of hexes and still have shot(s). Previously any movement disallowed firing.

Is there any other patch that would increase the effectiveness of vehicle ATGM's?

JohnHale · #5 December 7th, 2011, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by EOT

Patch 4.5 21) Missile units with stabiliser can now move a couple of hexes and still have shot(s). Previously any movement disallowed firing.

I'll go to the foot of our stairs - missed that one!

I always thought such units were not worth the bother of purchasing in view of that limitation; I know different now.

Imp · #6 November 23rd, 2013, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by EOT

Patch 4.5 21) Missile units with stabiliser can now move a couple of hexes and still have shot(s). Previously any movement disallowed firing.

Is there any other patch that would increase the effectiveness of vehicle ATGM's?

Not a good time to try this at the moment as this patch several weapons not in the first unit slot tend to lose a shot & not fire if only have 1 shot left.
So if you move the likes of a Bradley the only way to get it to fire is use the W key & fire the ATGM only.
Staying clear of units with missiles in other than the first slot is a good idea till the next patch in general as they only op fire once as well.

KAreil · #7 November 25th, 2013, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Imp

Not a good time to try this at the moment as this patch several weapons not in the first unit slot tend to lose a shot & not fire if only have 1 shot left.
So if you move the likes of a Bradley the only way to get it to fire is use the W key & fire the ATGM only.
Staying clear of units with missiles in other than the first slot is a good idea till the next patch in general as they only op fire once as well.

Speaking of that ATGM-problem, is there an early patch or hotfix planned to remedy this?

Mobhack · #8 December 6th, 2013, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Imp

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Originally Posted by EOT

Patch 4.5 21) Missile units with stabiliser can now move a couple of hexes and still have shot(s). Previously any movement disallowed firing.

Is there any other patch that would increase the effectiveness of vehicle ATGM's?

Not a good time to try this at the moment as this patch several weapons not in the first unit slot tend to lose a shot & not fire if only have 1 shot left.
So if you move the likes of a Bradley the only way to get it to fire is use the W key & fire the ATGM only.
Staying clear of units with missiles in other than the first slot is a good idea till the next patch in general as they only op fire once as well.

I have just tried this in a test scenario, and simply cannot replicate this behaviour. Units with 1 missile or MAW shot or whatever happily fired that shot using the normal F key or target cursor.

So if you can provide a test save game where it is demonstrable, I'd be happy to see it.

Andy

Wdll · #9 December 1st, 2011, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EOT

ATGM's are a much more reliable piece of kit to use now.
Was there a mod done to these weapon platforms?
I use to curse at my ATGM (TOW) vehicles for their sup par performance, might as well been throwing rocks.

Depending on your opponent these are actually a viable option now and not wasted points.

Thanks in advance!!

Take the last Leo2 German version. Laugh and laugh and laugh at the enemy missiles. I am not talking about 1-2 missiles. I am talking about 30-40 top of the line missiles (not top attack) against a single tank and nothing happening to it apart from suppression. It brings the fear of god to the opponent. HAHAHAHAHAHA

(though I am usually on the other end, but still, funny)

ATGMs are cool, just not very useful in all cases.

Imp · #10 November 22nd, 2013, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Wdll

Quote:

Originally Posted by EOT

ATGM's are a much more reliable piece of kit to use now.
Was there a mod done to these weapon platforms?
I use to curse at my ATGM (TOW) vehicles for their sup par performance, might as well been throwing rocks.

Depending on your opponent these are actually a viable option now and not wasted points.

Thanks in advance!!

Take the last Leo2 German version. Laugh and laugh and laugh at the enemy missiles. I am not talking about 1-2 missiles. I am talking about 30-40 top of the line missiles (not top attack) against a single tank and nothing happening to it apart from suppression. It brings the fear of god to the opponent. HAHAHAHAHAHA

(though I am usually on the other end, but still, funny)

ATGMs are cool, just not very useful in all cases.

Depends really in your case I am thinking Turkey vs Greece battles.
In which case the ATGMs are generally very effective.
From memory Greek modern tank force is composed about only 10% Leo 2s so most tanks are an easy kill as they are Leo 1s & M60 series tanks.

So just set Tukish Milans to engage armour under 70 & they hurt.
Front attacks vs Leo 2s are still worth doing however if the situation requires, hull hit & a bit of luck will cause damage or on rare occasions a kill letting your armor expose its self for the finishing shot so you must be lucky.

Edit I just looked suppose you are talking about Turkish Leo 2T, didn't even realise they had em. Now I have got to see how many but I am guessing not a lot.
From a quick none reliable source both sides have about the same number of Leo 2s