Will Japanese soldiers fight to the end?

[RedGuard]

Will Japanese soldiers in WinSPWW2 have special morale check? I mean if they are hard to retreat or route even in high suppression, and wil do the "Banzai Charge" in the rain of bullets if I order them to.

[Griefbringer]

As far as I am aware, Japanese are affected by suppression the same way as everyone else.

However, they usually tend to have high morale scores.

[Mobhack]

Originally Posted by RedGuard

Will Japanese soldiers in WinSPWW2 have special morale check? I mean if they are hard to retreat or route even in high suppression, and wil do the "Banzai Charge" in the rain of bullets if I order them to.

Japanese simply do not surrender. That is the main difference.

Japanese have a bonus in hand to hand combat at range 0 with other infantry.

Japanese infantry elements do follow the normal dispersal rules, but have high morale and experience, so remnants may linger. I think in earlier versions of the game, you had to always eliminate every last man?.

Japanese tend not to "bug out" from a failed armour assault (lower tank panic).

Other than that, they are normally affected by suppression and so on.

Andy

[gila]

JIA are very hard to to take on.

They have been trained where defeat is not an option.

Then they are battle hardened by the Sino-Japanese Wars in the early and mid 30's.

They do get suppressed, but recover quickly.

I consider every Japanese unit will fight to the last man,and pour on the fire,even it's just 1 man left.

BTW, a tip,,get 2-3 JIA units "not supressed" within a Hex or 2 of the enemy and then assualt,
Will simulate a "banzai charge" and routing of opposing infty will likely
happen.

[Ts4EVER]

I rarely play scenarios in the pacific theatre because fighting the japanese is extremely frustrating at times. Often it comes down to endless slugfests with little in the way of maneuvre.

[Marcello]

Originally Posted by Ts4EVER

I rarely play scenarios in the pacific theatre because fighting the japanese is extremely frustrating at times. Often it comes down to endless slugfests with little in the way of maneuvre.

Pretty realistic I would say. Otherwise you can try as the soviets in the chinese theatre.

[jivemi]

Originally Posted by Ts4EVER

I rarely play scenarios in the pacific theatre because fighting the japanese is extremely frustrating at times. Often it comes down to endless slugfests with little in the way of maneuvre.

Really. In a just-completed British LC delay scenario I decided to take a break from North Africa to see what Japanese troops were like during their flood tide of conquest.

It was April 1942 in Burma. My forces were mostly elite or high veteran and I expected a cakewalk. Set up most maneuver elements forward, with tanks and MGs waiting to catch enemy forces advancing through grass, with infantry in depressions, reverse slopes or trees to bushwhack any units that made it through the kill zones.

While their tanks were laughably easy to deal with, they had plenty of artillery and air. Jungle grass interfered with LOS on infantry advancing in the open as they just kept coming. It seemed they had special toughness and spotting abilities; when they got close to my infantry they'd move, occasionally take casualties and return fire from pinned status with seemingly uncanny accuracy. Meanwhile my guys wasted so much ammo with such little result that many ran out of HE before the battle was two-thirds over (there were fifty-one turns in all).

To make a long story short my forces lost about two of three companies of infantry, all six MGs, and two of four ATGs doing emergency rifle duty (they actually killed several depleted infantry units and a marksman before going under). A single Valentine rushed forward from reserve managed to hold off a gaggle of them with help from scouts and shrunken infantry squads but a breakthrough in another sector yielded several objectives, enough to allow the Sons of Nippon to suffer only a marginal loss.

While Andy says only Japanese experience and morale are affected the battle results screen for Player 2 displayed just fairly good
numbers, averaging maybe 75-80 for both. Apparently there are hidden variables which account for their potency and persistence in the face of supposedly overwhelming firepower (including repeated whacks from single 60-pounder and 4.5-inch batteries).

Needless to say survivors of this bloodbath are taking the next transport back to North Africa. They'll take SS fanatics over Japanese Supermen any day. Cheers!

[DRG]

[quote=jivemi;844816]

Originally Posted by Ts4EVER

While Andy says only Japanese experience and morale are affected the battle results screen for Player 2 displayed just fairly good
numbers, averaging maybe 75-80 for both. Apparently there are hidden variables which account for their potency and persistence in the face of supposedly overwhelming firepower (including single 60-pounder and 4.5-inch batteries)

The variables unique to the Japanese in this game are all mentioned in Andy's reply in post #3. There are no other "hidden" advantages beyond the ones he mentioned

Don

[Roman]

So it is very difficult to begin a long campaign with the U.S. in the Pacific and in 1942 or early 1943. Be very power of fire with machine guns and artillery. You have to take care of the infantry to get experience. Avoid close fights.
Do not despair if the first battles were defeats or draws. The important thing is to keep men.

[Roman]

Look at the AAR I'm doing on a long U.S. campaign. We see the strength of the Japanese and the inexperience of the Americans in the first years of war.
And you will see how bad I am as a commander