Adding Population

[lyze]

I was thinking of a spell I wanted to try to make but I'm not sure if its feasible. I've searched the forums to see if anyone had previously posted something similar but couldn't find anything, however, I might not be searching for the right terms.

I am wondering if there is some sort of effect that can be applied to either a unit (whether troop or commander) or to a spell that can add to a provinces population. I know there are some units that have a 'kill population' effect and some spells kill population, does the opposite exist? If so, is it set number of increase, percentage or can it be either or?

Thanks for any help.

[Stavis_L]

I don't think there are any direct effects you could apply with a moddable spell.

Wishing for population will increase the population in a province at the expense of others.

Otherwise, increasing the Growth scale is the only other mechanism that I'm aware of to increase population, and no units come with that. You can add it to sites, however.

[lyze]

Darn, I was afraid of that. Good to know you can add it to a site but doesn't really do what I want. Not unless you can create a site through use of a spell? I doubt that but that would be nice.

[sansanjuan]

Dom 4 will have the " procreate" and "move and procreate" unit orders.
Ssj

[chrispedersen]

Originally Posted by Stavis_L

I don't think there are any direct effects you could apply with a moddable spell.

Wishing for population will increase the population in a province at the expense of others.

Otherwise, increasing the Growth scale is the only other mechanism that I'm aware of to increase population, and no units come with that. You can add it to sites, however.

Thats not true.
At least three units have it. There is the goddess of fertility, and one of mictlan's tlaloques.

I don't know how its implemented. I would guess a negative reaper.

[Stavis_L]

Originally Posted by chrispedersen

Thats not true.
At least three units have it. There is the goddess of fertility, and one of mictlan's tlaloques.

I don't know how its implemented. I would guess a negative reaper.

Are you sure? I'm assuming you mean the Earth Mother for the goddess of fertility. I created a game with no scales and Dom10 for the Earth Mother pretender, awake (to make sure that the neutral growth scale would be kept.) There was no change in population after 10 turns. I did not try with the Tlaloques, but there is at least no information indicating a growth scale for those units (or the Earth Mother) either on the wiki or Edi's DB.

[chrispedersen]

No, I do not mean the Earth Mother.

there are two goddesses that say something like.. "her presence in the province cause love to bloom and fertility to increase..."

[Stavis_L]

Originally Posted by chrispedersen

No, I do not mean the Earth Mother.

there are two goddesses that say something like.. "her presence in the province cause love to bloom and fertility to increase..."

Which one do you mean, then?

There's the Lady of Love, whose description includes "She is blessed with aphrodisiac beauty and....Her mere presence brings love to flower..." I tested her with the same conditions (10 Dom, neutral scales) with no population change.

...or, perhaps you meant the Mother of Rivers, whose description reads "Her will and her great pitcher bring life to the land." I tested her too, no population change (except due to an earthquake on turn 10, which reduced population.)

...or was it the Lady of Fortune, whose description reads "good fortune affects the province in which she dwells"? I tested her for good measure too, no population change.

Is it some other unit, or one of the above?

[NTJedi]

One side piece of information is that if a map was to continue several thousand turns without any influence from growth scales, battles or spells the natural events would eventually decrease population to almost nothing.

[Sombre]

Originally Posted by NTJedi

One side piece of information is that if a map was to continue several thousand turns without any influence from growth scales, battles or spells the natural events would eventually decrease population to almost nothing.

Battles kill pop?