How many heroes?

[Adept]

Hello again,

I've been under the impression that all nations have 3+ national heroes. Some of the players in my group disagree.

I'm sure somebody here knows how this is.

[SlipperyJim]

It depends on the nation. Some nations have more heroes, and some nations have less.

For example, I think that LA Atlantis only has one hero.

[Deathjester]

Originally Posted by SlipperyJim

It depends on the nation. Some nations have more heroes, and some nations have less.

For example, I think that LA Atlantis only has one hero.

They have at least two. Apart from the Arssartut riding the Tupilak, there's the "once and future queen", L'ghux, a monstrous Basalt Queen with H4. Perhaps she was added in the patch where LA Atlantis got their underwater additions? (turning them into a capable nation imo)

[thejeff]

I could be wrong, but I believe all nations have slots for 3 heroes and a (possibly 2?) multiheroes.

In vanilla, not all nations have those slots filled.

Try the Worthy Heroes mod. Even without the rest of CBM, it adds some pleasant surprises.

[Foodstamp]

It is possible to mod in 6 heroes and 2 multiheroes. I believe this is the vanilla limit as well because it was upped from 5 to 6 when some changes were made to one of the Oriental based nations changing their hero count from 5 to 6.

[Adept]

I hope somebody has a definitive ansver. Some of my groups player belive that Early R'lyeh only has one hero, and so does early Helheim and Late age Jotunheim.

[Foodstamp]

Originally Posted by Adept

I hope somebody has a definitive ansver. Some of my groups player belive that Early R'lyeh only has one hero, and so does early Helheim and Late age Jotunheim.

Your friends are right, some nations do have fewer than 3. There is your answer!

You listed two that do for sure.

[thejeff]

Some nations definitely have less heroes than others. I'm not sure about those 3 specifically. I would not be at all surprised to find they only had 1.

[Amonchakad]

On a side note, the CBM includes the Worthy Heroes mod, which adds/enhances the heroes of almost all nations.

The topic of a "hero database" arose a few days ago in another thread, but I don't recall any definitive answer. Is there a way to see them all without having to run a massive all-ages game for something like 300 turns?

[rdonj]

In vanilla, maybe. However if you look through the cbm mod, La jotunheim and ea r'lyeh definitely have more than one hero. I couldn't find any for helheim though.