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Originally Posted by Kovski
I started playing a Finland-Soviet-battle, and I picked the finnish jaegers with their bandwagon transports. The battle was in winter, so I expected that movement would be hampered. However, what I found was that the snow vehicles movement was reduced to only two hexes per turn in wooded areas (most of the map that is), which is the same as the speed of my ski infantry.
I then thought that maybe the soviets are slowed down equally, but I found that even their wheeled BTRs move at least 5-6 hexes in winter woods. Now, having trained for a year in the Jaeger Brigade in Lapland, I know from personal experience that the snow vehicles we used (Bv-206s) are very maneuverable in snow and woods, and certainly more so than any wheeled vehicle. I also made a map with most of the terrain covered with snow drifts to represent deep snow (typically around 50-80 cm) and what I found was that my snow vehicles got stuck more often than the russian BMPs and tanks, which is rather absurd considering the bandwagons are made for moving in deep snow. Personally I've never heard of a bandwagon getting stuck in just snow.
How does the game treat snow vehicles? To me it seems they have the off-road mobility of a truck, which doesn't really seem appropriate. Sure, the snow vehicles don't have a high top speed on roads, but they aren't hampered by difficult terrain nearly as much as wheeled vehicles.
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1) If examined in Mobhack then you will see that the snow vehicles at 40-43 are all move class 0 "default" - which will be for a truck. They should all be track move class. Database error.
2) The bovos that are not snow vehicle class are all MC track, confirming 1.
Those bovos that are snow vehicles will have a faster movement on snow terrain, and less chance of sticking in soft snow than other vehicles of that move class. The bovos that are of other unit classes (the ATGM variants for example) - will have no such benefits. But the base class for these is likely a
truck one - and 2WD trucks are not much good off the road, even if you give them snow move bonus. I will check the default move class for snow vehicles in the unit creation code - it should most likely be at least AT-Wheel.
Try units #296 and #328 in the UK OOB as a test since they have track move class set on a snow vehicle unit class. (The Bv 2062 mortar carriers in the same terrain will not do so well, as they are SP-mortars class.)
Cheers
Andy
checked the code - default move class is already AT-Wheel. I reduced the deep snow stick chance to almost 0, and also they are now treated as for tracked vehicles in mud too. Finnish Bovos need to be made MC track like all others though.
Snow vehicle movement
I'm not too familiar with the mobhack-editor, guess I'll have to study it a bit.
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