Help vs LA R'lyeh

Trumanator · #1 July 15th, 2008, 02:56 AM

I'm playing a low quality LA hotseat with my brother. I am Ulm and he is R'lyeh. Atm we are semi even with slight advantage to him. How do I counter the chaff protected illithids? Unfortunately I don't have a lot of gems or income since we're playing with fairly low settings, but I have a lot of blood slaves and all blood magic researched. I also have full construction. Please Help!

Kristoffer O · #2 July 15th, 2008, 06:08 AM

Get archers to get rid of his chaff. Or use iron blizzard or some such. His chaff is mostly unprotected I would imagine.

Perhaps a 'bloodletting' to kill all chaff (including yours)

It was a while since I played LA Ulm, so I'm not sure what they have.

Low settings might be harsh on you, since he has freespawns regardless of his income.

Zeldor · #3 July 15th, 2008, 06:59 AM

I think the only option for you is to surrender. When it comes to LA R'lyeh he can beat 3-5 oppponents at once.

Karlem · #4 July 15th, 2008, 10:53 AM

The only way to win that for me is going for quality. Use SCs or thugs with very high MR and enough kiling power to destroy his chaff.

You can also try flying units on attack archers, but I'm not sure if that works 100% (can anyone confirm illithids count as archers?). Otherwise try them attacking back.

Have you tried skelly spamming?

Sombre · #5 July 15th, 2008, 11:05 AM

The answer here seems to me to be getting several of the high power blood summons such as heliophagi, archdevils and so on, kitting them out with anti chaff high mr items and going to town.

The real problem is going to be invading his water provinces. I can't remember if you can send horrors underwater,.... if you can those would be ideal for disrupting him.

thejeff · #6 July 15th, 2008, 11:12 AM

illithids are archers.

I've used this. It works. Especially if he's using the low resource unarmored ones.

Summon vampires lords and have them summon vampires.
Dominion push so you can use your vampires in dominion. This takes a while to build up, so if you're already pushed to the wall it won't help, but flying immortals are great on defense.

For offense, you'll need SCs.

triqui · #7 July 15th, 2008, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Zeldor said:
I think the only option for you is to surrender. When it comes to LA R'lyeh he can beat 3-5 oppponents at once.

Specially against low magic oponents like Ulm

thejeff · #8 July 15th, 2008, 02:22 PM

Perhaps not? I'd thought that was the reason "attack rear" didn't always work. Even for fliers.

There's certainly some mechanism determining whether they reach the rear or not.

Ironhawk · #9 July 15th, 2008, 03:07 PM

Thats how I understood it too, thejeff.