Ich's Games

Renojustin · #1 June 8th, 2008, 03:50 AM

Ich buddy, can we get some kind of ETA on when your games might be working again? There are a lot of new players involved with them and for a lot of us, this is our first MP experience. You hold our Dominions 3 in the palm of your servers!

I can say that the 45 turns of Ascendant that were played were super exciting and interesting, and it's already been almost two weeks since we got shut down.

Is there any way we can transfer these games to other servers? Is there anything at all to be done? Can we at least have the home address of your server guy so we can send threats and such? It's getting a little bit out of hand now. Thanks!

Griefor · #2 June 8th, 2008, 05:40 AM

It is quite likely that Ich is in a situation right now where he doesn't know everything about when things will be back up again either.

Since the server has been down for a while, it's actually quite possible that there will be some time lost getting everyone together again (It wouldn't surprise me if after some more time, a lot of the games are dead because half the players are gone), so maybe you should get another game going with a different host in the mean time.

Really, starting a new game is your best bet for getting some Dom3 action anytime soon.

Lingchih · #3 June 8th, 2008, 06:15 AM

I would doubt that lch's games get going again. They were hosted on Gandalf's server, and Gandalf does not seem too interested in the games these days.

I was in a very interesting game myself hosted by lch, but I have given up on it. Even if the server came back up, it would be a monumental task to get everyone back into the game.

I have moved on to other games. This has happened to me so often (through one cause or another), that I don't even worry about it anymore. I just move on.

Meglobob · #4 June 8th, 2008, 06:38 AM

I was not involved in any of Ich's/Gandalfs game but this has happened a couple of times to me.

Just to set the record straight, it is a rare occurance that Dom3 MP games do not get completed. I would say about 1 in 10 games are effected this way. Its just bad luck really in the real world effecting the host.

Tyrant · #5 June 8th, 2008, 04:38 PM

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Meglobob said:

Just to set the record straight, it is a rare occurrence that Dom3 MP games do not get completed. I would say about 1 in 10 games are effected this way. Its just bad luck really in the real world effecting the host.

It ain't that rare, you've either been careful about your choice of hosts or lucky. It puts players in a bad spot- on the one hand it sucks to get really into a game and then have it poof on you, on the other hand , a host is always doing you a favor ( a pretty big one IMO) and it's just not right to give them [censored] about it under just about any circumstances. That said, i'll go ahead and speak ill of the departed 'cause i don't think we will be seeing Zachariah anymore- all three of his game i was in collapsed and he never once responded to my messages. I was annoyed. In contrast Ich/GP are long time pillars of our community, they have done me many favors, i am grateful , and i will not blame or rebuke them if they are unable or unwilling to continue doing me favors.

I would not want to be associated with any negative method of dealing with this("Hall of Shame"), but an update of the host sticky in the MP section that listed the currently active proven hosts might be a good way of letting newbies know who's likely to be a solid host might be helpful. Given the difficulty of getting into this game it's important to do what we can to make sure we don't scare off fresh blood. Having your first MP game collapse could very easily turn you off permanently.

JimMorrison · #6 June 8th, 2008, 04:53 PM

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...That said, i'll go ahead and speak ill of the departed 'cause i don't think we will be seeing Zachariah anymore- all three of his game i was in collapsed and he never once responded to my messages...

This is what I'm talking about. The guy is a member of the community for over 4 years, is an active game host, and until the day of his disappearance, a rather active forum member. The guy could be dead or in a coma right now, and because of whatever personal catastrophe ended his long-standing record of reliability, people seem pretty eager to stomp on his integrity.

I've been here 3 weeks or so, if I was hosting a game and bailed, all I could expect is "wow, what a flake". After 4 years, I would hope for better.

WraithLord · #7 June 8th, 2008, 06:42 AM

I've also recently had four games that "exploded" and were never finished b/c of one thing or another that happened to the host. The worst case was Fearsome Legions, in which the host Zachariah simply vanished at the most exciting moment in the game.

No offense intended for the possible great hosts out there but I've since learned to trust only llamaserver and Pasha. Mostly b/c my personal experience with some specific other hosts was bad (i.e. exploded games).

I think the MP community needs to have a hosts hall of fame (and shame) where hosts are measured by the number of games they actually hosted to the end. The hall should be used to help players make an educated decision regarding which host they'll entrust with their valuable time and effort playing a dominions game. The hall should by no means be used to flame or slander hosts. The hosts are volunteering their time for the benefit of players and IMO should be respected for that.

Meglobob · #8 June 8th, 2008, 06:56 AM

Wraithlord, to be fair to Zachariah before Fearsome Legions he must have hosted 6 - 10+ server games which were all completed.

llamserver and Pasha are indeed both excellent, gold star+++, hosts.

llamabeast · #9 June 8th, 2008, 07:17 AM

Thankyou.

lch is also a very reliable guy indeed - it's not his fault that Gandalf's computer exploded. I'm sure Gandalf will be trying to fix it, but of course lch can't do anything and probably doesn't know exactly what's going on.

It's frustrating that there is no access to the game files either, otherwise the games could be transferred.

WraithLord · #10 June 8th, 2008, 12:33 PM

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Meglobob said:
Wraithlord, to be fair to Zachariah before Fearsome Legions he must have hosted 6 - 10+ server games which were all completed.

llamserver and Pasha are indeed both excellent, gold star+++, hosts.

I didn't know that, and its good that you've mentioned this.

My point about worst, was that this was my worst personal experience of this kind. I have no idea what happened there. I recall that the players, including myself, have PMed and emailed him but never got a response. The worst thing about this is the abruptness in which the game stopped and the complete lack of information (up to this day) what has happened there.