I am getting really fed up... server problems.

Argitoth · #1 February 3rd, 2008, 11:40 PM

Twice now I spent a very long time doing my turn in a multiplayer game and I log in again to make some changes and all of a sudden the server goes from having no X on my flag to having an X. I log in to my nation, none of my actions were saved. This happened twice now and I am just so freaking pissed off right now on how much time I spent thinking of all the things I need to do.

I copied dominions3 installation folder and created dominions3_2. That's so the "3" folder can be the server folder and "3_2" can be the client folder. I am running my own server. This has happened twice and I am extremely pissed off right now. I wish I could curse at the top of my lungs but I don't like to curse.

Edit: Oh great, now that I deleted c'tis 2h and trn files it looks like I can no longer take my turn alltogether. Any help?

Cor2 · #2 February 4th, 2008, 12:21 AM

Sorry, wish i could help but its a little over my head. All I know is that some servers really do not like it when you quit without saving. you haven't been doing that?

Could it be caused by using the same copy of dominions as both the server and the client? Copyright protection?

You deleted ALL the C'tis files? In both 3 and 3_2?

I don't know.

Argitoth · #3 February 4th, 2008, 12:43 AM

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Cor2 said:You deleted ALL the C'tis files? In both 3 and 3_2?

Yep, the sequence of events that just ensued were orchestrated perfectly for me to not be able to take my turn... what luck...

Cor2 · #4 February 4th, 2008, 12:46 AM

All i can suggest is looking in the recycle bin if your running windows. once its gone from both server and client I think its gone for good.

lch · #5 February 4th, 2008, 12:24 AM

Always prepare your turns offline, never do them online. Just let the client fetch the turn file after you enter your password when you connect, then immediately disconnect and don't reconnect unless you are done preparing the turn offline. I don't really understand your "no X / an X" comment but if it has to do with you wanting to do some last-second changes to your turn, it might be that the server already hosted when you wanted to do that because you were the last one to play his turn.

Argitoth · #6 February 4th, 2008, 12:31 AM

You know if you don't take your turn the server has an X over your flag until you take the turn?

It went from having no X (I took my turn) to showing an X (I never took a turn.)

vfb · #7 February 4th, 2008, 12:36 AM

Apologies in advance for asking something obvious, but did it host?

And, sorry, a second obvious question: Is this the game which you are hosting, where you deleted the .2h file from the savedgames/<game> directory? That would reset your status to unsubmitted.

When I ran servers in the past, if I was also a player in the game it was very difficult to do a partial turn. I couldn't connect, download, disconnect, work offline, reconnect, upload. Whenever I managed to screw up and not have enough time to finish a turn, I had to disable quickhost (and turn off the timer).

Argitoth · #8 February 4th, 2008, 12:45 AM

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Apologies in advance for asking something obvious, but did it host?

And, sorry, a second obvious question: Is this the game which you are hosting, where you deleted the .2h file from the savedgames/<game> directory? That would reset your status to unsubmitted.

it did not host, i control the server. I didn't delete the .2h file when this occurred (going from no X to with an X)

vfb · #9 February 4th, 2008, 12:47 AM

The only thing I can think of is to disable quickhost and the timer on the game while you work on your turn. Copy the C'tis .trn file back into the real game directory, you need that to do the turn.

lch · #10 February 4th, 2008, 04:07 PM

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I log in to my nation, none of my actions were saved. This happened twice now and I am just so freaking pissed off right now on how much time I spent thinking of all the things I need to do.

Quite a predicament: CLIENT wants to upload the 2h file. SERVER accepts the connection and awaits the data from CLIENT. CLIENT starts sending the data, which SERVER writes to its savegame directory. But uhoh, the file that CLIENT wants to send and SERVER wants to overwrite are the same! In case the file is read in chunks one can see that this easily leads to trouble, I don't know how it looks it in reality. If the client would read the whole contents out of the file before sending it over then it might work. I think that for the trn file the client never actually asks the server to download it, since they're the same, so it's always at the latest version and the client doesn't bother to download it.

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Edit: Oh great, now that I deleted c'tis 2h and trn files it looks like I can no longer take my turn alltogether. Any help?

No wonder. Those files are essential for your game. The 2h file for your orders - deleting this will let you stale. The trn file is the game state - deleting this will let you stale aswell, I'd expect. If you deleted them then you'll have to host the game so that the server generates new ones.