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Old September 20th, 2007, 11:19 PM
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Default The (Indirect) Fire Bless for Magi - Huh?

Greetings,

No matter how much I stare at the indirect bless for Fire (+Attack), I just don't see how it synergizes with the caster, let alone with any Fire spells.

Am I missing something, or is the indirect bless for Fire really that sucktastic?

If so, i'd vote to replace it with something like +Penetration or something similarly thematic for Fire.

Either that, or have more melee ranged Augmentation spells for Fire. Essentially, Fire Augmentation for melee offense and Water Augmentation for melee defense?

Your thoughts?
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Old September 20th, 2007, 11:31 PM
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Default Re: The Fire Bless for Magi - Huh?

Fire weapons is unthematic? How so? Fire is one of the better blesses.
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Default Re: The Fire Bless for Magi - Huh?

It's almost impossible blessings will be changing this late in the games development. You probably have better odds winning the lottery because a change like you're suggesting might make you happy yet upset other gamers.
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Default Re: The Fire Bless for Magi - Huh?

I believe he means indirect magic. The title should be changed.
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Default Re: The (Indirect) Fire Bless for Magi - Huh?

Whoops, I do mean the indirect magic

Y'know, the one that increases Attack for each level in the Fire path of magic.

So, a F3 Mage would have +3 Attack. But how is this useful for the Mage?
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Default Re: The (Indirect) Fire Bless for Magi - Huh?

Not all fire mages are old, burned out Wizards.

Some are Red Dragons. Red Dragons want to be sure they hit what they attack because a hit usually results in a kill.
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Default Re: The (Indirect) Fire Bless for Magi - Huh?

Oh, you don't mean bless? (deletes post)

You're right, it generally isn't that useful, though there are SCs and the like with fire magic.
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Default Re: The (Indirect) Fire Bless for Magi - Huh?

The bonuses to leadership can actually be quite useful, even if the +attack isn't. Less need to back up your magi with mundane commanders.
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Default Re: The (Indirect) Fire Bless for Magi - Huh?

Hmm,

I'll have to test more, but considering the Encumbrance penalty to fatigue when casting spells, I don't think thug/mage heroes are particularly efficient.
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Default Re: The (Indirect) Fire Bless for Magi - Huh?

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Hmm,

I'll have to test more, but considering the Encumbrance penalty to fatigue when casting spells, I don't think thug/mage heroes are particularly efficient.

Script a few low level buffs, like ironskin or fireshield (or phoenix power!), and attack. It can be brutal.
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