If You Ever Wanted To

[Atrocities]

If you ever wanted to get rid off all those FQM massive asteroid systems, well do what the Expanded Mod AI player just did to me. I had nearly turned most of those asteroids, some 50 or more total, into planets when a lone AI ship entered the system and proceeded to the start. OMG! Kabooom, the who system was layed waste as the AI colapsed the sun into a black hole. No more asteroids.

Well this got me thinking, who needs a system filled with 50 planets or more? I know that colapsing a star in many of the problem systems, such as organic infestation, comet systems, etc into a black hole then killing the black hole opens the system back up. It never occured to me, that is until the AI did it too me, to use this method to clear huge asteroid systems. Once they are all gone, I can create a new star and build a sphere world.

[Glyn]

Yes, but can you create a 50 asteroid field system out of a single spherewold system?

[Kamog]

Once the asteroids are gone, they are gone permanently and you can't reverse the process.

[Atrocities]

This type of anihilation would work well in PBW games because once the planets are gone, they are truly gone. So instead of blowing up stars, just collapse them and win by attrition.

[Glyn]

Yes you can reverse the process, but it�s very inefficient.

Start with a system with one ringworld or sphereworld.
Step:
1) Use a nebula creating ship to destroy system. (Note: Order must be issued from a sun in another system.)
2) Remove system nebula. This will leave an asteroid in place of the ring/sphere-world.
3) Create a new star
4) Use new star to create a new ringworld
5) Then Repeat Steps 1-4 until you have enough asteroid fields.

[PvK]

What? You can use a star in another system to destroy a ring or sphere world?

PvK

[Fyron]

The asteroids work better in mods that have reasonable remote mining and limit the size of created planets.

There is always the No AST option for far fewer asteroids. You'd have to add other types than Mid-Life if you want to play them, but it's really easy since most quadrants share the same system data and just have different header information for system placement. The exceptions are things like Old, Newborn, Ancient, Ideal, and Paradise.

[douglas]

These two exploits were used quite extensively in the Shattered Hopes game, documented in the Nova Storm War AAR started by Glyn. The nebula creation one was responsible for the destruction of my main fleet that prompted my surrender at the end, but I'm afraid I can't really complain - I'd turned at least about a dozen systems into black holes without ever visiting their stars

[geoschmo]

I don't think anyone has a problem with you being able to remotely order the destruction of a star. The thing that is a bug is if it lets you blow up a ringworld simply because you gave the order remotely, when you aren't supposed to be able to blow up a ringworld with a nebulae device at all.

[Fyron]

I say I'd have a problem with it... The mechanism is clearly meant to require you to be on the star to use the device. Otherwise you would not have to be on the star to issue the order in the first place.