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July 5th, 2005, 07:28 PM
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Possible bug in airborne drops
I'm not sure if this is a bug or an undocumented design feature. I am in the middle of designing my 1st scenario and during Alpha testing noticed some really bizarre behaviour regarding Airborne Drops.
Question: Do certain types of LEG Infantry have a penalty for taking damage during a drop?
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July 5th, 2005, 08:37 PM
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Re: Possible bug in airborne drops
IIRC: Yes, anything other than a Para or Airborne APC/Light Tank takes extra damage in a drop.
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July 5th, 2005, 09:41 PM
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Re: Possible bug in airborne drops
Yeah, they don't take too kindly to being pushed out of the aircraft without a parachute...
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July 5th, 2005, 10:24 PM
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Re: Possible bug in airborne drops
Also, don't let the Airborne Light Tank / APC fool you. They are not dropable. There is a long post on this subject under paratrooper question
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July 6th, 2005, 03:05 AM
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Re: Possible bug in airborne drops
All infantry types take damage on drop, even dedicated para units. Admittedly they tend to lose less guys and take less suppression, because of supposed better training.
Other infantry types tend to break necks all to often, but that is meant to compensate for the fact that the game allows vehicles to be dropped ready to go.
Also watch out on what ground they land: it is very hard to swim under a parachute or the land feet first with 80lb. pack in a rock garden. Oh, always better than head first!
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July 6th, 2005, 08:04 AM
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Re: Possible bug in airborne drops
I feel the need to repeat myself: In the case of BMDs at least, there will ALWAYS be causalties (and the BMD only has a crew of 2). This can't be tolerated, as it's over the edge of silly.
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July 6th, 2005, 11:56 AM
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Re: Possible bug in airborne drops
Sorry to have stirred up the BDM issue again.
Please take note of my question...
Do different types of LEG Infantry get penalized in the damage calcs for an airborne drop. Not Mechanized Infantry, Not Motorized Infantry. LEG.
Specifically, I'm seeing extreme wierdness in the damage to US Airborne MMG, Scout, Sniper, Rifle, 40mm GL, 81mm Mortar, 60mm Mortar, etc. Are any of these unit types penalized or given extra odds of taking damage?
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July 6th, 2005, 01:55 PM
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Re: Possible bug in airborne drops
Exactly:
Anything that is not Para has higher odds to break their bones upon landing ..
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July 6th, 2005, 02:10 PM
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Re: Possible bug in airborne drops
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scJazz said:
Specifically, I'm seeing extreme wierdness in the damage to US Airborne MMG, Scout, Sniper, Rifle, 40mm GL, 81mm Mortar, 60mm Mortar, etc. Are any of these unit types penalized or given extra odds of taking damage?
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I have no airborne training, but aren heavy support weapons dropped spearalty somehow? A ranger doesnt land with a AGL strapped on his back right?
Havent anyone seen a russian BMD drop? They even use brake rockets for the final decent.
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July 6th, 2005, 04:31 PM
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Re: Possible bug in airborne drops
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scJazz said:
Specifically, I'm seeing extreme wierdness in the damage to US Airborne MMG, Scout, Sniper, Rifle, 40mm GL, 81mm Mortar, 60mm Mortar, etc. Are any of these unit types penalized or given extra odds of taking damage?
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I have no airborne training, but aren heavy support weapons dropped spearalty somehow? A ranger doesnt land with a AGL strapped on his back right?
Havent anyone seen a russian BMD drop? They even use brake rockets for the final decent.
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I'm sorry for bringing the topic from leg to wheel, I assumed "leg" was an abbrevation.
But @Pergite, rocket brakes? Have you got any pictures of that?!
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