Uprading ship design (hull relatad)

alasyr · #1 February 19th, 2001, 05:31 PM

From my expirience I could only upgrade a ship (base) to a design based on a current ship's (base's) hull i.e. destroyer to new destroyer design (spacestation to ne spacestation design).I know that this is how things work in other games of the genre (MOO), but I wonna be sure is this really the case with SEIV or I am missing something ? I know that new design must not cost more than half the current design but does this apply on value on total resources used or every resource individualy ?

Triumvir Emphy · #2 February 19th, 2001, 05:34 PM

you are correct as far as i know, you must stay with in your hull class.

Markavian · #3 February 19th, 2001, 05:54 PM

I would have thought that 50% of the current design upgrade limit would apply to individual resource types, rather than the sum of the totals. That seems mroe sensible, and likely.

rdouglass · #4 February 19th, 2001, 07:21 PM

The upgrade "50% limit" seems a little hokey, but does prevent a cheat I've tried before. My thought was I could build a StarBase with just a Master Computer. Then upgrade to a SB with a MC and a Sphereworld Generator. Then repair it in 1 turn. Sphereworld in 5 turns!!! WRONG!! ...can't be done!! That would have been a killer cheat. However, I have heard of the "incremental" cheat - where you continually upgrade a ship / base over and over on the same turn, increasing the value / cost incrementally each time to circumvent the 50% limit.

Haven't tried it but I think others have...

Daynarr · #5 February 19th, 2001, 08:08 PM

quote:
Originally posted by rdouglass:
However, I have heard of the "incremental" cheat - where you continually upgrade a ship / base over and over on the same turn, increasing the value / cost incrementally each time to circumvent the 50% limit.

Haven't tried it but I think others have...

Well, it is true - you can do that. That also makes the whole point of '50% limit' completely useless because you can get from any design to any design just by making several 'in between' designs, which just makes you do extra work. Because of that I have just changed the limit to 100% to save me that extra work (on several occasions I was getting message that my design is more than 100% different then previous one!

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[This message has been edited by Daynarr (edited 19 February 2001).]

Triumvir Emphy · #6 February 19th, 2001, 08:40 PM

i could see you use "loopholes" like this against other human players because you could assume they are doing the same thing and it doesn't unbalance the game because most loopholes are published in forums and your opponent is probably digging them up just like you.

but to use these on the AI and then claiming the AI sucks is pure cheese.