Communion Master and Slave

[Maltrease]

What exactly happens if a unit cast both communion slave and communion master?

For example if you have 8 Units, each cast both. Should all 8 units now have 3 levels higher magic?

[Duncanish]

That's it indeed. A communion/sabbath can, theoretically have unlimited masters and slaves. They'll all share fatigue and caster-only buffs. But it's not really worth having several Masters.

[Slygar]

this is something i've always wanted to know for sure. Can a mage be a slave and a master at the same time?

[Maltrease]

My test didn't lead to any definite conclusion. It would be great if you could see the upgrade magic paths by looking at the unit.

I had 4 theurgs each cast slave followed by master and then scripted for 4 smites. It didn't work... although they were casting divine blessing and fanatism. There were valid smite targets within range.

I then tried 8 theurgs with the same script. In this case only 1 theurg cast smite... the others didn't do anyting. It was like they just skipped their turns.

I haven't tried scripting them for other spells yet. Maybe that would offer a clue?

[Norfleet]

The better, more conclusive test, would be to simply do the following:

Take two Theurgs, script the first to do "Master, Slave, Astral Shield, Hold, Hold, Spells". Script the second to do "Master, Slave, Astral Weapon, Hold, Hold, Spells". If both of them end up with astral weapon and astral shield, it means a unit CAN simultaneously be a master and a slave.

Obviously, a unit can't commune with itself, so having 4 Theurgs would mean that each Theurg had, at best, 3 slaves, for a total of only +1 paths. Not enough for smite. If you had 5 Theurgs, that would have been more conclusive.

[Yossar]

Originally posted by Norfleet:
The better, more conclusive test, would be to simply do the following:

Take two Theurgs, script the first to do "Master, Slave, Astral Shield, Hold, Hold, Spells". Script the second to do "Master, Slave, Astral Weapon, Hold, Hold, Spells". If both of them end up with astral weapon and astral shield, it means a unit CAN simultaneously be a master and a slave.

Tried it with 2 lizardman shamen. All spells should cost 24 fatigue, including encumbrance.

Round 1: Both cast slave. Each has 24 fatigue.
Round 2: Both cast master. Each has 48 fatigue.
Round 3: One casts Astral Shield and one does nothing. Both have 72 fatigue. Both are shielded. Only one casting has taken place, but both get the fatigue as if they had cast the spell and one shaman didn't do anything.
Round 4: Similar to 3. One casts Astral Weapon, one does nothing, and both end up at 96 fatigue.

So based on this test slave and master work together, but they work... oddly.