Jotun Gode overpriced?

[Arryn]

When you compare the stats of the Jotun Gode to the Jotun Jarl, for 70g more you seem to get:

+1 holy
mountain survival
+1 combat movement
-1 strength
half the leadership of the Jarl.

The rest of the stats balance out, and the added protection from better armor is accounted for by the difference in resource costs.

Hardly seems like the Gode's extras are worth 70g.

Comments?

[ February 05, 2004, 08:15: Message edited by: Arryn ]

[Arralen]

+1 holy = 1/2 upkeep
Most holy units have 2 times higher price to reflect/compensate this.

So the difference is 2 times higher as well.

Holy 3 gets you "sermon of courage",
lets you get a prophet with holy 4, too.

Both is invaluable - try playing a nation with holy 2 priests only.


cheers


edited: senseless posting

[ February 05, 2004, 08:37: Message edited by: Arralen ]

[Arryn]

The Jarl is already holy. "+1" refers to the difference between them.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Arralen:
+1 holy = 1/2 upkeep

You're thinking about "Sacred". Sacred units have 1/2 upkeep. Holy is a simply the priest level, and doesn't affect upkeep. Both the Gode and Jarl are already sacred.

Basically, the Gode's $70 extra comes from his increased priestly specialty. If you don't feel the $70 added cost for an extra priest level is worth it, just build Jarls. Godes are a more specialized unit, and specialty units tend to have a cost above that of what you might consider to be their actual value added, because otherwise, you'd only produce those.

[Arryn]

Originally posted by Arralen:
Holy 3 gets you "sermon of courage",
lets you get a prophet with holy 4, too.

Both is invaluable - try playing a nation with holy 2 priests only.

You mean such as R'lyeh? I do it all the time.

You can also summon something with Holy-3 such as the Harbinger.

Sermon of Courage isn't worth 70g, IMO. And paying 70g for *every* Gode just to make *one* a prophet is hardly a good answer.

[Arryn]

Originally posted by Norfleet:
Basically, the Gode's $70 extra comes from his increased priestly specialty. If you don't feel the $70 added cost for an extra priest level is worth it, just build Jarls. Godes are a more specialized unit, and specialty units tend to have a cost above that of what you might consider to be their actual value added, because otherwise, you'd only produce those.

A better answer, thanks. Looking at other nations, it seems that the diff between H2 and H3 is valued at 50g. That would put mountain survival at 20g (pricey), and you just get screwed out of 1 strength and 25 leadership. Because of all this, I would think the Gode would more fairly be valued at, say, 180.

Comments?