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March 13th, 2004, 04:21 AM
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Fleet supply problem in 1.91!
Ok, I thought fleets would share supplies evenly between all the ships in a fleet. Always seemed to work that way in all previous experience with previous patches.
In 1.91, I try this and ... it looks like some ships aren't getting any added supplies. I'm kind of stumped.
Example (each line is a ship with supplies/total):
Turn 1:
1555/1720 (165 less than full)
1555/1720 (165 less than full)
1555/1720 (165 less than full)
1555/1720 (165 less than full)
1555/1720 (165 less than full)
7640/7850 (210 less than full)
2465/2800 (335 less than full)
3320/3600 (280 less than full)
3320/3600 (280 less than full)
3320/3600 (280 less than full)
Total = 1875 supplies short of full for all ships.
My orders are to join all these ships into one fleet. My expectation is it will divide its excess supplies amongst the fleet, so all the ships will be topped off except the ship with 7640 supplies, which will be left with 7640 - 1875 = 5765. That is, more than everyone else, so everyone else should be filled up.
Instead, the result is like this:
Turn 2:
1720/1720
1720/1720
1720/1720
1720/1720
1720/1720
7850/7850
2800/2800
2784/3600 (816 less than full)
2784/3600 (816 less than full)
3022/3600 (578 less than full)
Total = 2210 less than full.
That is, it looks like there are two bugs:
1) It chose weird ships to not fill up, with no good or understandable reason to do so. This breaks the use of supply ships to resupply fleets reliably!
2) 335 supplies were actually lost somehow!
Argh...
Has this been noticed/investigated before? Any other info about it? Is it a new problem in 1.91? Is there a workaround?
Oh, and the "fighters can't resupply on a moon resupply depot" bug is apparently still there. I expect people probably already knew that, though.
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March 13th, 2004, 05:56 AM
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Re: Fleet supply problem in 1.91!
That's very odd.
I tried it 3 times, and every time I tried it worked out exactly as you thought it should. Here's one of my tests:
Turn 1:
1760/2000
1800/2000
1840/2000
1840/2000
1840/2000
2800/3000
2800/3000
2920/3000
2920/3000
7800/8000
Total 28320/30000
Turn 2:
2000/2000
2000/2000
2000/2000
2000/2000
2000/2000
3000/3000
3000/3000
3000/3000
3000/3000
6320/8000
total 28320/30000
I did it multiple times, with different numbers, and every time it only took supplies off the big supply ship until it's supplies were on par with the rest of the ships
I wish I could offer an explanation as to whey yours turned out as it did... but... I'm at a loss. 
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March 13th, 2004, 06:28 AM
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Re: Fleet supply problem in 1.91!
Thanks for checking. I hope it's just some rare fluke condition that causes it.
I do notice that the ships which weren't supplied fully, are the largest ships in terms of kT size, even though they had fewer supplies than the "tanker" ship. I know that hasn't been a cause of this in the past though, since my tankers are often smaller than the warships they have supplied... in Versions before 1.91, anyway.
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March 13th, 2004, 07:09 AM
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Re: Fleet supply problem in 1.91!
I haven't experienced it yet. If I do, I'll be sure to post my findings.
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March 13th, 2004, 07:31 AM
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Re: Fleet supply problem in 1.91!
This has been an issue in 1.84 but just with fighters mixed in fleets already. AFAIR, the ship supplies got divided by 2 every turn (in case of fighters in the fleet).
See:
fleet supply warning
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March 13th, 2004, 08:21 AM
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Re: Fleet supply problem in 1.91!
Could the problem be related to the ships' order within the fleet? In other words, if the big ship is listed Last in the fleet as opposed to first, that might cause the bug to occur or not occur...
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