Omaha Beach - Scen #9

[Second-Maître Laurent]

Hi there!
I'm playing this scenario.
I'm on turn 5, yet.
I play my turn and at he end of the turn, I quit my order phase.
So begin the German turn. At the end of the resolution, the game crash down.
I've saved this game under a new name : idem.
I've changed some preferences : animation level=0; message=0; animation=off : idem

I've tested another scenario : no problem encountered.

Is anyone have an idea?
Having regard to the length of a turn, I don't want to do the scenario again!!!

Regards

[Mobhack]

Try replaying the turn from a previously saved game point and see if it crashes on you again (or not).

If it does crash again, try attaching a save game from immediately prior to the crash event and then we can have a look at it and see if we can spot the problem.

Otherwise a message saying "it crashes!" is not particularly helpful in and of itself.

(One thing you may want to do is to do a disk check with Windows disk maintenance utilities and see if there are any lost clusters that need recovering, those can lead to a file error (and hence crashes) - and if it is your save game, that could be why...). If there were any lost clusters - then probably best to redo the turn from the last save again in case of that.

[Second-Maître Laurent]

Originally Posted by Mobhack

Try replaying the turn from a previously saved game point and see if it crashes on you again (or not).

Thank you Mobhacl for your help.
I do that yet! No change.
Here you are the attached file of the saved game at the end of my turn, just befor to launch the Germann turn.

[DRG]

Originally Posted by Second-Maître Laurent

Thank you Mobhack for your help.
I do that yet! No change.
Here you are the attached file of the saved game at the end of my turn, just befor to launch the Germann turn.

Running this now and on turn 8. The scenario involves a multitude of exchanges of fire per turn and I will let it run overnight if need be

NO junk on the west edge.......

[DRG]

Originally Posted by Second-Maître Laurent

Here you are the attached file of the saved game at the end of my turn, just befor to launch the Germann turn.

I let that run AI vs AI. When I went to bed it was on turn 21. Got up at 2:30 am and checked it and the game had ended on turn 61




So......... NO Junk........ NO crashing

Andy put his finger on the cause first try after a number of tests were run to elliminate other causes and the fix WAS in the smoke code

We will run some more checks then apply the fix to MBT and run some checks. That will take time to do and then probably issue a replacement EXE but it has not been decided if we will do that now or wait until the next official patch / update

To be determined . We know it fixed the edge junk and stops the crashes but now we need to test to see if there are any unintended consequences..... that can take time because initially we knew what to look for......with the "unintended consequences"........ we don't

That said I did not see anything odd happening with this save game running but I wasn't specically looking for things other than the known issues

Don

[dTerm]

Originally Posted by DRG

[...]
Andy put his finger on the cause first try after a number of tests were run to elliminate other causes and the fix WAS in the smoke code

We will run some more checks then apply the fix to MBT and run some checks. That will take time to do and then probably issue a replacement EXE but it has not been decided if we will do that now or wait until the next official patch / update

To be determined . We know it fixed the edge junk and stops the crashes but now we need to test to see if there are any unintended consequences..... that can take time because initially we knew what to look for......with the "unintended consequences"........ we don't

That said I did not see anything odd happening with this save game running but I wasn't specically looking for things other than the known issues

Don

Have you thought about "field testing" the fixed binary? Some of the crashes the players have encountered, were hard to reproduce on your computer, if I remember correctly.

Chances would also increase some more exotic, but easy to spot, consequences are found, I guess.

[Mobhack]

Windows defender gave me an antivirus report when I downloaded that - wacatac.b1ml or something similar. Then removed it.

You probably should run an antivirus scan and then try posting that again perhaps?

[DRG]

I will continue testing this but it has not changed since it was played and reviewed from both sides in 2021 and no issues were reported

HOWEVER.

I let it play out AI vs AI and it got to the point of putting replacement on the map ( I think....) the start of turn 6 when it shut the game down and I saw a graphics symbol on the map that should not be there



HOWEVER Pt 2

I restarted the game from the Autosave and it started right up and it is now playing out in the middle of turn 6

There will be a further investigation but it appears this "issue" does not appear for everyone and it can be overcome using the Autosave

[DRG]

Here's the problem



When the green shows up so does that symbol that should not and if it does there is a possibility of the game shutting down. So far restarting using the autosave gets around that but it needs to be and will be investigated further

This will be a legacy issue relating to the conversion to Windows and the changes to the game terrain and it is an on again off again issue

[Second-Maître Laurent]

Thanks guys! You're awesome.

I'm stupid! I didn't thought to launch a game AI VS AI to test the isue. I should remember that next time.

DRG, probably you've found the isue.
Have you a solution?