Incorrect sides vs US army in Europe

vyrago · #1 November 23rd, 2018, 07:59 PM

A ‘bug’ I’ve noticed. When making a battle with US army in Europe, certain opponents cause the US army to start on the ‘east’ (right-hand) side.

Example: US Army vs USSR : US west, USSR east.

But

US Army vs East Germany: US east, East Germany west side

Same for US army vs Poland, Czechoslovakia even generic Red.

Any way to fix that??

DRG · #2 November 23rd, 2018, 08:04 PM

We'll put it on the list to investigate.

I tested and you are correct...........That this is only now coming to light is the biggest mystery

Mobhack · #3 November 23rd, 2018, 08:54 PM

East Germany? - are you posting in the wrong forum here - this is the WW2 forum, no East Germany hereabouts. (why would WW2 USA fight Poland or CZ in WW2 either?).

Just tried USA v USSR in WW2 - in 40, 42, 44 and 45 and the USA are on the LHS. Against Poland same left hand side in a couple of tests. Ditto for CZ and Red. No East Germany test, as there is no such OOB in WW2.

Mobhack · #4 November 23rd, 2018, 09:45 PM

It was a bug in MBT, not WW2.

Fixed - somehow a wrong "if" statement test had crept in. Deleted that and it all works as intended.

DRG · #5 November 23rd, 2018, 10:22 PM

Thread moved to the correct forum and I have re-tested as well with Andys correction and the problem is solved for the next patch/upgrade

vyrago · #6 November 25th, 2018, 10:39 PM

Is this not something we can fix ourselves?

DRG · #7 November 26th, 2018, 01:00 AM

No. It's all done in code unless you are building a sceanrio

Warhero · #8 November 26th, 2018, 04:36 AM

Btw, it could be fun to have option "play from south to north/north to south" etc. Adds more choices for player IMHO. Anybody agree?

PS. I know this will be just pipe dream because code (needs lot of work)

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Warhero

Imp · #9 November 26th, 2018, 11:08 AM

I actually agree sometimes there is a map you would like to use but its the wrong way round for standard setup.

Mobhack · #10 November 26th, 2018, 11:30 AM

There is no concept of "North" or "South" etc - if a scenario designer wants to put an annotation on his map as to where North is for this battle, then fine.

Otherwise there is "Left side" and "right side" of the map, each side deploys on one or the other, and plays horizontally across the monitor screen. Some scenario designers have tried a "vertical" battle but the game is not designed that way - retreaters go for their monitor edge, arty comes in from it, AI path-finding and deployment (in random battles) is based on the left-right paradigm.

So if the USA are deployed on the RHS against say a WARPACT force, it really does not matter much at all other than "player expectations", perhaps, based on some idea that the RHS is "East" - and in any case, in war they may well be attacking from that side say due to having encircled the enemy or whatever.

And of course - the deployment map side is not always fixed, especially against guerilla type opponents. Israeli V PLO and USA v VC are such (as far as I recall). Also battles v Mujadeen, IIRC (not digging into code to find out).