Irrevocable Actions?

[JonBrave]

This post of Soy's http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showp...&postcount=150 (my incorrect assumption that a strategic map shape change, which can be undone, would preserve originally carried items) leads me to wonder how many turn-based actions cause a change which cannot be undone? You would have to do a reload & restart turn to back out of it. Are there many things like this --- mostly you can change your mind to your heart's content? I can think of:

• Example like shape change, perhaps others, where a carried item could be lost and you can't retrieve it.
• Converting gems between themselves or into money.
• Giving someone a cursed item.
• Giving a mercenary some gems/items.
• Accidentally click on item "throw away" (trivial, but annoying!)

Anything else "non-trivial" I ought to know about which could mean turn restarting (SP!)?

[jimbojones1971]

Yeah, cursed items. Like when I just gave two lycanthropos amulets to the same commander because i was in a hurry, AFTER i had spent 40 minutes setting up a huge battle. Gah! So now I have a very very angry Asynja :-)

[Fantomen]

Sending messages, items and gems to other players.

Cancelling recruits remaining from the previous turn resets resources, for example a resource 21 indie commander in a resource 12 province, if you bought him last turn and accidentally cancel him you'll have to restart or wait 2 turns again. I picked the indie commander example because that's the one I can think of having real significance.

Removing troops from a commander that for some reason has had his leadership decreased below the number of troops he commands, the troops cannot be moved back to him once removed. Heroic stupidity and a few afflictions does this, not sure exactly what all the possible situations are.

Shapechange into a form without the shapechange command. A few mods use this, like insectoids where the hive queen cannot be made mobile after changing into her immobile form.

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Not something that falls under this category, but in the same vein perhaps: Prophets cannot be renamed, you must rename your prophet before making him your prophet. Makes sense thematically, but I've been really frustrated by it in RP games.

[Nagot Gick Fel]

Bogus & Co - "convincing" one/some of them to join your cause and giving them new tactical orders (while failing to copy the old ones)

Originally Posted by Fantomen

Removing troops from a commander that for some reason has had his leadership decreased below the number of troops he commands, the troops cannot be moved back to him once removed. Heroic stupidity and a few afflictions does this, not sure exactly what all the possible situations are.

A common example is the High Priest event. Free leadership 40 leader, leading a random number (sometimes 41+) of militia.

[Soyweiser]

Originally Posted by Fantomen

Removing troops from a commander that for some reason has had his leadership decreased below the number of troops he commands, the troops cannot be moved back to him once removed. Heroic stupidity and a few afflictions does this, not sure exactly what all the possible situations are.

This is a bug I think. I have seen item based leadership changes dump troops that where over leadership. But not heroic stupidity.

[JonBrave]

Originally Posted by Fantomen

Cancelling recruits remaining from the previous turn resets resources, for example a resource 21 indie commander in a resource 12 province, if you bought him last turn and accidentally cancel him you'll have to restart or wait 2 turns again. I picked the indie commander example because that's the one I can think of having real significance.

Thanks, didn't know that one.

[JonBrave]

In the same vein, from the moment I click (perhaps accidentally) on a mage/leader's "set battle orders" line, and for whatever reason his orders have not been copied, is there anything I can do to not cancel his orders?