Question NAP

GFSnl · #1 February 27th, 2011, 05:58 PM

Hi by the way i'm the new Pantokrator.

Anyways NAP-3

Does it mean
Declare war, wait, wait, attack or
Declare war, wait, wait, wait, attack

Well I guess it doesn't really matter it'll just delay your demise.
Just curious.

Soyweiser · #2 February 27th, 2011, 06:30 PM

Are you the new church, mountain or the new death metal band?

GFSnl · #3 February 27th, 2011, 06:44 PM

Well all three can be worshiped. Although i haven't seen the heavy metal pretender god.

Idea for a mod?

Soyweiser · #4 February 27th, 2011, 06:52 PM

I think that has already been done before. (By some people who had little understanding of metal. It was hilarious).

Regarding your question. I think it is, declare war, wait, wait, issue attack orders, fight. But I usually try to clarify this when somebody declares war at me or when I declare war with them. I don't really mind if somebody tries to sneak in an additional turn. I'll just spend the turn moving more troops over.

GFSnl · #5 February 27th, 2011, 06:57 PM

Ok, thanks for the quick reply.

Soyweiser · #6 February 27th, 2011, 08:19 PM

[Calahan] @ Soy - You might want to link this thread to that guy asking about NAP's http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showt...665#post736665

Edit: this is all MP of course. AI's have no concepts of naps. And may attack you for no reason. (Some consider attacking the same province of indies enough a reason for attack).

Finalgenesis · #7 February 27th, 2011, 11:23 PM

It's a good idea to make it clear when you make NAP 3 and when you declare war say which turn is weapons free.

The games I've been in go by 3 full turns, so if you send a pm declaring war 10 minutes before turn is hosted, I don't believe that counts as a full turn and the countdown should start next turn.

Basically either pm them before they take their turn or better yet send them ingame pm where they are guaranteed to see message at the start of the turn, in which case it's declare war (1), wait (2), wait but issue attack order(3), FIGHT(4).

Or just go FIGHT(1).

Warhammer · #8 February 28th, 2011, 12:06 AM

I REALLY hate the way people treat NAPs online.

If I turn down an NAP prior to running into you, that does not mean I want war. If I turn down an NAP when the only message I receive is "NAP3?" it does not mean I want war.

Also, if I sign an NAP with you, that does not mean that we should no longer talk. It means we are agreeing not to go to war currently.

The lack of diplomatic decorum in game drives me nuts sometimes.

RonD · #9 February 28th, 2011, 11:14 AM

Well, those other nations each are controlled by an egotistical megalomaniac, intent on world domination through force.

"Decorum" may be a bit too much to hope for....

thejeff · #10 February 28th, 2011, 01:23 PM

Well, I agree that messages like "NAP3?" are tacky. I try at least to wrap them up in some semi-in-character language, even if it boils down to the same thing. And I'm usually willing to talk, though not always as prompt as I could be about it.

But, since not agreeing to a proposed NAP really does mean, "I want to be able to attack you on a moment's notice", it's not surprising that people treat it as a declaration of war. I've gotten away with it playing a water nation, but that's a special case. Hard to attack and vulnerable when they do.