OT: Enterprise New thread....

Dracus · #1 October 3rd, 2001, 08:06 PM

Since RIchard said it was ok, I am strating a new thread. Please stay on the subject of ST and the new Enterprise.

tesco samoa · #2 October 3rd, 2001, 08:16 PM

watched 2nd show Last night.

I enjoyed it.

Would post some stuff on it but that would be wrong and ruin it for those watching it tonight.

P.S. anyone wants to see it eary. bird is echostar5. A-Channel

Look forward to talking about it tomorrow.

Their will be a lot of conversation about this one.

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Baron Munchausen · #3 October 3rd, 2001, 08:19 PM

Does anyone know if there's a site with episode lists yet? I'd like to see a summary of what's in the 'pipeline' right now. Since I don't watch tv except for 'special' circumstances I won't see the previews inserted among commercials at other times.

Puke · #4 October 3rd, 2001, 08:19 PM

well, i thought i was trying to spurr Raynor's discussion of continutity and warpspeed thru various series, i appologize if it was construed as inflamitory. I am 99% sure warp has meant something different in each seriese (and in different episodes within each) although it MAY have been the same in TNG as it was in TOS.

now, stop me if im wrong here, but i thought there was supposed to be no video communication during the earth / romulan war? granted i did not watch the show very intently, nor did i see the second one if there has been one yet, but it seemed like they had a big viewscreen, and i dont remember if they were talking to aliens on it or not.. but there seem to be alot of technological descrepancies. for instance, i thought it was supposed to be all lasers and nuclear warheads?

to further nitpick, i thought i remembered a TNG episode where Riker was assing up some first contact mission, and they talked about how the klingon war started when the humans met the klingons as a pre-warp civilization and screwed up the first contact procedures. is that all out the window now?

Baron Munchausen · #5 October 3rd, 2001, 08:29 PM

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Originally posted by Puke:
well, i thought i was trying to spurr Raynor's discussion of continutity and warpspeed thru various series, i appologize if it was construed as inflamitory. I am 99% sure warp has meant something different in each seriese (and in different episodes within each) although it MAY have been the same in TNG as it was in TOS.

now, stop me if im wrong here, but i thought there was supposed to be no video communication during the earth / romulan war? granted i did not watch the show very intently, nor did i see the second one if there has been one yet, but it seemed like they had a big viewscreen, and i dont remember if they were talking to aliens on it or not.. but there seem to be alot of technological descrepancies. for instance, i thought it was supposed to be all lasers and nuclear warheads?

to further nitpick, i thought i remembered a TNG episode where Riker was assing up some first contact mission, and they talked about how the klingon war started when the humans met the klingons as a pre-warp civilization and screwed up the first contact procedures. is that all out the window now?

Yes, that's the essence of the beef against the management of Trek. The technology is not even consistent within a given series/generation of actors. Remember the food replicators in TOS? Yet, in ST V - set decades later - they had a 'galley' in the Enterprise where ordinary food had to be cooked. And, of course, any time they need something to be 'scarce' to further a story line it's 'difficult to replicate'. Now, if you can zap anything at all from point A to point B 25,000 miles away (isn't that the standard range limit of transporters?) there cannot logically be any problem with 'replicating' a substance once you've got the pattern from transporting it. Fans have been noticing this lame way of getting around lack of story ideas, and complaining, for a very long time. At least in the current series they can genuinely claim technical difficulties in replication...

The transporter is a new technology with uncertain effects.

As far as the Romulans, they haven't contacted them yet.

Unless this occurs in the next episode? Anyway, maybe they just refuse video contact. The statement that they never had video contact doesn't mean in that case that it was not available, just that they didn't have it with the Romulans.

I don't recall seeing the episode where Riker spoke of the first contact with the Klingons.

Dracus · #6 October 3rd, 2001, 08:29 PM

I think we were talking about warp drive distances and the races they showed.

This site gives the closest 26 stars to earth. all are with in 12 light years. http://www.astro.wisc.edu/~dolan/con...a/nearest.html

At 200 times the speed of light per year, they would be able to reach Centauri in about 8 days. IF the Klingons lived 80 hours from Earth then warp 5 would have to be faster then 200 times the speed of light per year. To reach Centauri in 80 hours or 3.5 days we are looking at about 420 times the speed of light per year. Now if the klingons live beyond Centauri and Rigil (4.3 light years) then warp 5 would have to be faster then then that.
This is if we try to use actual star systems in relation to the Earth.

This is if my thinking is correct. I could be way off base.

Riker is hosting the TNN allday TGN and he said by his time, that only 19% of the galaxy had been charted, not explored just charted. 17% during TOS.
So even the volcan's charts were not that large.

[This message has been edited by Dracus (edited 03 October 2001).]