a couple of questions about regeneration:

Deadnature · #1 October 11th, 2008, 09:10 PM

Does regeneration stack? For example: if I have a hydra and I give it a high nature bless, does it's hp/turn/regenerated go up accordingly?

Are there any limits to the ring of regeneration? For example are there units that the ring does not affect if equipped? Like undead, lifeless....?

Thanks in advance for your help.

- Deadnature

chrispedersen · #2 October 11th, 2008, 09:30 PM

With only a couple of bugs.. yes, it stacks. I have routinely gotten regenerations into the mid 60s.
Yes, there are units unaffected by regeneration.

Deadnature · #3 October 11th, 2008, 09:33 PM

thanks chris, do you (or does anyone) know what units are unaffected by regen?

Like what are some common sc/thugs that are unaffected? Golems? Tartarians?

fungalreason · #4 October 11th, 2008, 09:43 PM

I believe it won't work anything that's "Lifeless", which includes undead

vfb · #5 October 11th, 2008, 09:53 PM

You are right, it won't work on anything that's "Lifeless". But regen works on undead that are not lifeless.

Example: Longdead and Golems do not benefit from regen, but Banes and Tartarians do.

fungalreason · #6 October 11th, 2008, 10:41 PM

Ah, thanks for the clarification, vfb

Crevan · #7 October 15th, 2008, 08:15 AM

Lifeless undeads:
Longdead, Ghoul, Dispossed Spirit and some other. They`re made from dust and bones, so they can`t regenerate
Not lifeless undeads:
Bane, Shade, Vampire and other like-alive undeads. They have some kind of flesh, so they can regenerate
Mechanical units can`t regenerate...but looks like some of them (Vines, Wooden Constructs and some other) not inanimate. I rarely play Nature nations (My choice is Fire, for the Emperor and great Justice), so there may be hint, which need to check
Anybody can do that?

Gregstrom · #8 October 15th, 2008, 08:28 AM

Ghouls aren't lifeless undead, by the way.

Despite all their vines and roots, manikins and mandragoras etc. are lifeless.

Crevan · #9 October 15th, 2008, 09:07 AM

So they can`t regenerate, yes? Or...
Tartarans - undead, but can use regeneration (and with GoH or Chalice - recuperation)
Will it work, if I use Chalice on Manikin/Mandragora/Vine Men?

Gregstrom · #10 October 15th, 2008, 10:41 AM

The Chalice is AFAIK the only way of recuperating afflictions on undead (and probably lifeless non-undead). I think GoH used to but that was stopped by a patch. The Chalice works on just about anything though.