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May 22nd, 2008, 06:00 PM
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What\'s the best unit for Flaming Arrows?
With Flaming Arrows in effect, are crossbows still better than shortbows when firing on heavily armored troops? And how about against light or medium armor?
I'm assuming crossbows will still hit slightly harder even after the Flaming Arrows effect, but is it worth the slower fire rate?
* This is referring to Conceptual Balance by the way.
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May 22nd, 2008, 06:20 PM
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Re: What\'s the best unit for Flaming Arrows?
I expect markatas are probably the best chassis for Flaming Arrows because you can pack so many cheap markatas onto the map. Or maybe Sauromatians because they have better precision.
That said, I haven't tested it. Fire damage aside, flaming arrows makes your arrows magic == better at avoiding shields, so if you're dealing with Abysians with shields, crossbows are still probably a better bet than arrows. For heavily-armored normal infantry...
A crossbow bolt that hits does 10 AP + 6 AP. A flaming (shortbow) arrow that hits does 10 + 6 AP, and you get twice as many. That means that 10 AP needs to do as much as (10 + 10 + 6 AP, since the other 6 AP cancels out). Gut feel tells me that's going to be around Prot 15 or so but you could crank the math or run a simulation to be sure.
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May 22nd, 2008, 06:49 PM
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Re: What\'s the best unit for Flaming Arrows?
Hmm, thanks for the input. By what would be the use of using Flaming Arrows against Abysians? I'm assuming they would be immune to the 6 AP fire damage, but maybe the hard to measure boost in shield avoidance helps? I guess I will test this later when I get a chance.
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May 22nd, 2008, 07:20 PM
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Re: What\'s the best unit for Flaming Arrows?
Longbows are very good, 45 range, decent damage, 2 strategic move, I think and very cheap.
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May 22nd, 2008, 07:21 PM
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Re: What\'s the best unit for Flaming Arrows?
Yep, that's what I was thinking off. Might boost your hit percentage by as much as 50%, depending upon how fatigued the Abysians are. (+3 is usually about a x2 improvement, but the curve is flatter near the middle IIRC, at +/- 0 territory.) I still probably wouldn't rely on crossbows but if you have to, Flaming Arrows might provide a force multiplier.
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May 23rd, 2008, 01:29 AM
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Re: What\'s the best unit for Flaming Arrows?
Hmm, the manual says Flaming Arrows are magical for the purposes of hitting ethereal units. Does the magical bonus also give +3 precision then?
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May 23rd, 2008, 02:40 AM
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Re: What\'s the best unit for Flaming Arrows?
the best unit for flaming arrows is undead archers.
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