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Old September 10th, 2007, 04:08 AM
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Just a small mistake I spotted while modding this one:

Unit 260 "Para squad" has weapon 167 in slot 4.
Weapon 167 is "9M120M Ataka", parametered as such (class 21, range 120, HEAT 80). While I have nothing against giving ATGMs to infantry squads, maybe a 50kg, 6-km supersonic radiobeam heliborne weapon is a tad overkill, particularly at 10 rounds per 10 men?

For reference, unit 261 is similar except weapon 4 is #152 "RPG-7MT" and IOC is 2005 instead or 2007.
Maybe weapon 167 was intended for a light short-range ATGM and was replaced later? Or just weapon number typo?
Not 100% sure about this one myself.
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ATGM Ataka - are not intended for people. ATGM Ataka it can be started only from the special apc.
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Checked some more, and it could be a typo for weapon #157 "RPG-7TB 103mm" (FAE RPG-7), which isn't used by any para unit yet.
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Weapon 031 - wrong characteristics of the weapon - need to be established on sample RPO-A Shmel - Russia OOB
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It's now on the list.....looks like a typo top me as well. I'll look at weapon 31 also

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Hi, I am from Poland.Some questions:

1) Why in WINSPMBT v 3.5 in Polish OOB in weapon slot ATGM Spike-LR has HEAT 160? Is it a joke or what? Polish sources give at most 800mm RHA...And I see in other OOB-s Javelin ATGM has HEAT 45 , and Polish estimates for Javelin are 800-1000mm RHA and all Polish sources give Javelin better penetration than Spike. Meanwhile in Israel OOB I see SpikeMR HEAT 80? What is going on here?

I have also another question.

2) Is it possible in WINSPMBT game mechanics for ATGM to be both DC-ATGM and TA-ATGM? Polish sources claim Spike-LR to be both multi-charged and top attack missile.Is that true?
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