Infantry Thoughness values ?

[Nightblade]

Hello,

After playing winSP:WW2 an extensive amount of time, i really appreciate how lethal infantry firefights can be at a reasonnable distance, as it forces me to be a bit more cautious in engaging the enemy.

I would like to see something like this in my winSP:MBT games, in which i feel sometime the infantry is way too resistant to bullets/explosives in short distances (or what i consider to be short distance).

In my last attempts, i tried to pull the infantry toughness for both opponents at 80%, but it is not very different from what i experienced with the original 100%

Anyone have already worked his preferences around this infantry thoughness setting ?
What do you think could be the good percentage to setup, in order to get the firefights being mostly as lethal as they were in winsp:ww2 , without being too much ?

[brummbaer]

I rounded it up to 120% because I felt it was too much of a slaughter every time, and probably it's still not enough for reality but I'm enjoying it though. Fortunately real battles are seldom bloody as a SP engagement. Think of Falkland battles: at Darwin/Goose Green british had 17 casualties and 37 wounded against 45 dead argentinians but playing it I usually end with far more casualties for both.

[pdoktar]

Casualties are not counted directly resulting in a kill or incapacitating wound. The casualty figures, can range from a direct kill to psychological incapacitation. That�s why you can have one-man teams firing all possible weapons, because the one guy still fighting may have these "casualties" hanging on with him and blasting away with a shot or two.

[VDS]

pdoktar said:
Casualties are not counted directly resulting in a kill or incapacitating wound. The casualty figures, can range from a direct kill to psychological incapacitation. That�s why you can have one-man teams firing all possible weapons, because the one guy still fighting may have these "casualties" hanging on with him and blasting away with a shot or two.

Does the game take morale into account when assigning damage? If it doesn't, wouldn't elite troops be less likely to have "psychological casualties" then, due to training/mental strength? Would it be fair then to increase the toughness value for a side with mostly elite elements? And lower it for a side with poor morale? I hardly ever touch these settings, but just curious.

[Nightblade]

After making a short battle with the computer, using 60% as troop thoughness for both sides, i am now puzzled.

Because it does not seemed different than with the usual 100% and 80% i was playing before.

So is this setting really doing something ? is it broken ? or was it just this test battle in which both the computer and myself were unlucky with the hits/casualties rolls (as it is always possible) ?

Have someone noticed higher casualties (at equal level of squad experience of course) while playing with a low troop thoughness ? if yes , with what percentage ?

[cbreedon]

I have 100 vs 30 and it seems to work OK.

The IA seems to have a huge advantage wuithout the adjustment. Even still I seem to get wierd shots at unrealistic range getting hits against me.