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Old August 4th, 2005, 11:06 AM

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Default Austria OOB part 1

the win version of the game is a definete improvement, however some of the oobs have become a bit weaker, such as the austrian oob.

The following is valid for 1980-92, however in that time there we significant and repeat changes in TO&E and OOB.

Baseline experience is taken as the presently provided level

In most infantry BN type formations, heavy weapons are kept in the 'heavy weapons company', but are always assigned to platoon/company formations on deployment and have been so recorded here.

'Jagdkommando'
(Secretive and very highly trained commandos, incl. SCUBA and airborne, modelled on SAS. Duties primarly of 'stay-behind' nature. 2 Co's strong)
Exp + 25 moral + 15

- Heavy Commando Squad (6 men)
Stg-77, MMG, Carl Gustav (many rounds), Satchel Charge
- Med. Commando Squad ( 6 men)
Stg-77, SMG, Sniper Rifle, Satchel Charge
- Recce Squad ( 3 men)
Heavy Sniper Rifle, Stg-77, Gernade launcher

Platoon ( seldom used)
- 2 Heavy Commando squad
- 2 Med Commando squad
- 2 Recce Squad


'GEK Kobra'
(specialist CTU of the Interior Ministry, with 1 Co+ based in Vienna. Very highly regarded internationaly, modeled on GSG-9)
Exp + 18 moral + 10

-Assault Squad ( 4 men)
Stg-77, SMG, SMG, Gernade launcher
-Sniper Team ( 2 men)
Med Sniper Rifle, Stg-77

'Platoon' Deployment: (APC)
-4 Assault Squads
-4 Sniper Teams
3x VBB-type APC

'Honour Gaurd Company'
(1 'special' Co of The Vienna Gaurd BN, duties incl. VVIP protection and gaurding the government in times of war. Their ranks incl. specialist engineer, sniping and AT units)
Exp + 10 moral + 10

- Infantry Squad (8 men)
Stg-77, LMG, LAW, Gernade
- Combat Engineer Squad (6 men)
Stg-77, SMG, Satchel Charge, Gernade Launcher
- Sniper team ( 2 men)
Heavy Sniper rifle, Stg-77, Gernade
- AT team ( 2 men)
Carl Gustav, Stg-77, Gernade

'Platoon' Deployment( motorised - ad hoc formation incl. specialised units)
3 Infantry Squads
1 Engineer Squad
1 AT team
2 Sniper Teams

That's it for the moment. Let me know if there is any interest and I'll provide some more. Other units include:
- 'Gaurd' Company
- 'Mountain' Company
- 'Fortress/Security Company' (Sicherungskompanie_
- 'Recce Company' (motorised)
- 'Milita Company' (Landwehr)
- 'Military Police' Platoon (Feldjaeger)

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Old August 4th, 2005, 11:35 AM

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Default Re: Austria OOB part 1

I'm interested for sure!
Could you give a breakdown of those other formations too?

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Default Re: Austria OOB part 1

hey narwan, do u have any specific scenarios in mind?
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Old August 4th, 2005, 02:11 PM

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Default Re: Austria OOB part 1

Except for the 'recce company' all of the ones you mentioned are absent from the OOB and I'm familiar with none of them.

The Sicherungs and Landwehr formations are especially interesting since in a WP vs NATO conflict with austrian involvement much would fall upon the shoulders of the territorial units. That's what I remember from austrian doctrine of those times at least.
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Old August 5th, 2005, 01:15 PM

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The Sicherungs and Landwehr formations are especially interesting since in a WP vs NATO conflict with austrian involvement much would fall upon the shoulders of the territorial units. That's what I remember from austrian doctrine of those times at least.
you are certainly right. the problem is that WINSPMT does not model the core of austrian defense very well - obstacles and mines. basically vehicles will just continue to drive over a mined area.

reg. SICHERUNGSKOMPANIE (security/fortress defense)
These units are (were) not composed of inferior troops, rather they are chosen by their close proximity to their mob location and their low chance of future relocation - hence they are mostly local farm boys. Mobilisation for these units is very fast. Under a state of pre-warning, core border units could be manned in a matter of hours, 12 at the max.

There are two main types of these units. One, the 'fortress bound' units manned and supported the over 60 individual fortress positions. Second, the 'object' orientated units (usually platoon sized elements) that were basically light infantry set to gaurd bridges and other critical infrastructure.

i have a bit of a beef with the inacuacy of some of the fortress guns, but then again i have a major beef with the fact that a stg-77 (steyer aug) is exactly as inefficent as an ak47

'Security Company' (Fortress)
Exp: -5 Moral: 0
- 3 anti-tank bunkers units (e.g. L7a1 turrents)
- 3 anti-personel bunkers (MGs etc.)
- 3 observer/recce teams (standard 3 man w. sniper and jeep)
- 2x 81mm motor unit
- 1 20mm AA gun (only some units)
Security Platoon
Security Platoon
Security Platoon

'Security Platoon'
3 Infantry Squad
1 AT team
1 MG team

Security Squad Squad ( 8 men)
-Stg57, LMG, Gernade
Security AT team 9(2men)
-Carl Gustav, Stg 57
Security MG team (2 men)
- MMG,Stg 57
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The Viennese 'Gaurd' (Garde) BN
(3 rifle co plus a support co plus an 'honour gaurd' co plus command/supply company. The gaurd BN is specalised in urban combat, with 3x as much FISH training than other units.)
Exp= +5 Moral= +5

Garde Squad (8 men)
- Stg-77, LMG, LAW, Gernade
Heavy Garde Squad ( 8 men)
- Stg-77, LMG, Carl Gustav, Gernade
(all other are the same as above)

Platoon (none supplemented)
1 Heavy Garde Squad
3 Garde Squad

Company (all units motorised)
1 HQ
4 Garde Platoons
3 Sniper Teams( recce)
3 Carl Gustav AT Teams
2 Heavy MG team (12.7mm)
1 2x81mm mortor team (held in BN)

Support Company (motorised)
1 HQ
3 Panzerjaeger Platoons (9 106mm ATK gun)
3 20mm (?) AAA
3 2x 81mm mortor teams
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