Two Very Bizarre Happenings - help appreciated

tinkthank · #1 August 12th, 2004, 07:07 AM

1. After one battle, it seems as if one of my Warlocks enslaved an enemy commander (nothing new there) -- HOWEVER instead of landing in the garrison as a "regular" "non-commander" type unit, the critter in question ended up as a full-fledged commander with all of his skills intact AS A COMMANDER (complete with Jotun-sounding name) in the province afterwards. (I can click on him, assign him orders, give him items, etc.)
This shouldnt make a difference, but I just thought I'd say that I have no globals up (there is only 1 up, by the enemy Jotun AI, Blessing of Thetis).
I am attaching the screenshot of the battle report, which shows "commanders killed: -1" -- never seen that before either.
What is going on here?

2. I have noticed at least 2 or 3 times that a Never Healing Wound is causing much more damage than I have ever seen, both on units which are dominion-dependent for HP (such as prophets, pretenders, and units under a GoH global) and for units which are not.
This screenshot is, I believe, one of a Phoenix in its home province with a dominion of 7. (Note this is NOT during a battle, but in the Commander view.) I have also seen this with other non-dominion dependent units. 12 minus 2 (20%) should be 10, not 2.
What is up with that?

thanks much!

I am going to try to paste in screenshots, let's see if this works...

tinkthank · #2 August 12th, 2004, 07:08 AM

Um ok only 1 screenshot was attached, I'll try that again with the other one.
Can someone please tell me how I can "attach" a screenshot .jpg in the body of my post as I have seen done elsewhere? (That is, have it appear here without having you need to download it? Like in the thread on skins or developer humor?) Thank you!

Arryn · #3 August 12th, 2004, 08:46 AM

Try using the "image" UBB code ...

tinkthank · #4 August 12th, 2004, 11:05 AM

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Try using the "image" UBB code ...

How?
Like this?
Argh no, this isnt working -- it requires a http address? but the Image I want to paste in is on my hard drive?

Thanks for the other feedback, too.
@Endoperez, surely I have tried Master Enslave, but with enslavement, I only end up with little de-commanderized units in my garrison.

Torvak · #5 August 12th, 2004, 11:19 AM

map?

tinkthank · #6 August 12th, 2004, 11:22 AM

Sorry, missed your question Torvak: It is Cradle, I believe.

How did you get that in there? Do you have that image on your site and then use that Command that Arryn suggested?

Endoperez · #7 August 12th, 2004, 08:51 AM

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1. After one battle, it seems as if one of my Warlocks enslaved an enemy commander (nothing new there) -- HOWEVER instead of landing in the garrison as a "regular" "non-commander" type unit, the critter in question ended up as a full-fledged commander with all of his skills intact AS A COMMANDER (complete with Jotun-sounding name) in the province afterwards. (I can click on him, assign him orders, give him items, etc.)
This shouldnt make a difference, but I just thought I'd say that I have no globals up (there is only 1 up, by the enemy Jotun AI, Blessing of Thetis).
I am attaching the screenshot of the battle report, which shows "commanders killed: -1" -- never seen that before either.
What is going on here?

Enslavement and Hellbind Heart work differently. Hellbind Heart, just as Charm, gives you commander with his skills and items and magic paths, enslavement gives you a unit who once was a commander. The -1 in the killed section is there because you have one more commander than you had when the fight started. The number of units you lost can also be negative. It seems you have never tried Master Enslave...

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2. I have noticed at least 2 or 3 times that a Never Healing Wound is causing much more damage than I have ever seen, both on units which are dominion-dependent for HP (such as prophets, pretenders, and units under a GoH global) and for units which are not.
This screenshot is, I believe, one of a Phoenix in its home province with a dominion of 7. (Note this is NOT during a battle, but in the Commander view.) I have also seen this with other non-dominion dependent units. 12 minus 2 (20%) should be 10, not 2.
What is up with that?

I think this is because that Phoenix just came from a province in which the dominion caused his hitpoints to be lower than normal. If that phoenix has only 2 hitpoints even after staying in a province that has high dominion (being in one at the beginning of the turn is not enough!), then there is something wrong in there. Have you checked for extra information about his hps? IIRC the effect of Never Healing Wound is shown in there.

I saw no screenshots.

Cohen · #8 August 12th, 2004, 09:17 AM

I'm not sure, even I'm talking about an ipothesys, but it could be nice if it's effectively so.

Perhaps your your Enslave Mind has go through the enemy MR by a quite high number (with lucky open ended die roll, or due to a very good astral mage with right items) you enslave the enemy without making him losing his commander status (if it was a commnader).

But I doubt it works so.

Torvak · #9 August 12th, 2004, 10:26 AM

Which map is that?