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October 24th, 2003, 01:08 AM
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National Security Advisor
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OT: Public referrendums on destroying evil companies
Here's your chance to fight back. Cast your vote on whether these corporations should be annihilated for being despicable, or not.
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October 24th, 2003, 02:20 AM
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General
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Re: OT: Public referrendums on destroying evil companies
The Last question is the most important. Companies are NOT people and should not be given the rights of people. Yet some senile old Supreme Court judges in the late 19th century gave them the rights of people and no one since has had the brains or guts to fix this ****up legislatively. Prior to this disaster a 'company' was a public trust and was vulnerable to the public if it exploited and harmed them. Since that Supreme Court ruling they are the proxy shields for the new Robber Barons. Someday, someone has got to stand up and say 'no quasi-governmental power without commensurate responsbility to the public!'
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October 24th, 2003, 02:38 AM
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Re: OT: Public referrendums on destroying evil companies
Our wonderful economy is only here because of the incredible powers given these entities. And it has raised the quality of life of almost all citizens of countries that have adopted such models. (And it hasn't hurt those it didn't help, basically backwoods folk and Mennonites.)
No legislating more protection for foolishness. You didn't get Gator without clicking yes on something you shouldn't have. If anyone Posts after this saying they didn't click on anything and got it they are mistaken. I apologize if I offend you, but I deal with this stuff all day.
Same goes for McDonalds and Microsoft, though I honestly believe the success of both is simply the product of demand. Demands that both companies serve very, very well.
The market will deal with them, and with the RIAA, though I honestly hope the courts deal with the RIAA first, as the market's solution to the problem is likely to be painful. Not 1932-South-Dakota-dairyman painful, but it will be damn awkward.
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October 24th, 2003, 04:23 AM
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Re: OT: Public referrendums on destroying evil companies
Why do you think that companies need to be allowed to do things the public strongly opposes, in order to provide things we actually do want?
PvK
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October 24th, 2003, 05:12 AM
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Re: OT: Public referrendums on destroying evil companies
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Originally posted by Loser:
You didn't get Gator without clicking yes on something you shouldn't have.
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Oh, come on... you could take that to any extreme. If a box popped up on your screen, with no text and only 2 buttons, yes and no, and clicking the "no" button destroyed your computer... does that mean that the victims - people whose computers are destroyed by that software, written with the purpose of destroying computers - are also the culprits? That's insane.
If you're driving down the highway, pull off into a private (but highway-accessible, and unrestricted) parking lot, and a concealed landmine blows the engine out of your car... that's the driver's fault? The person who placed the landmine is ethically innocent? Give me a break.
-Cherry
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October 24th, 2003, 06:41 AM
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Re: OT: Public referrendums on destroying evil companies
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Originally posted by Saber Cherry:
If a box popped up on your screen, with no text and only 2 buttons, yes and no, and clicking the "no" button destroyed your computer...
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No doubt the conventions that make digital agreements legally binding would need to be worked out, but in principle, if people voluntarily agree to having things being done to their computer in exchange for certain services, then they shouldn't complain about it.
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