Enterprise + Borg

[Fyron]

Enterprise is meeting the Borg... wtf? Can they not at least try to be original, and try not to destroy the Last vestiges of continuity left in Star Trek?

[Katchoo]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Enterprise is meeting the Borg... wtf? Can they not at least try to be original, and try not to destroy the Last vestiges of continuity left in Star Trek?

Of course not! This whole "Temporal Cold War" idea is going to mess up the Star Trek Universe rather badly. And considering Voyager finshed it's series with the ship fully powered with technology from the future, any future spinoffs will have to answer the effects of that.

Of course, they could screw over the continuity for the next few years and then finish Enterprise with some "event" that wipes out all knowledge that the "Temporal Cold War" ever happened. Kind of like how the Newhart Show ended with the whole series being a dream of Bob Newhart

What I don't understand is why they don't use the Gorn at all? They've got this perfectly good race that has been as under-developed as you can under-develop something, and it's a race that fans of the franchise want to see.

Or better yet, cancel Star Trek and get Babylon 5 or a spinoff of B5 back in production.

[Captain Kwok]

Ok, well this was a rerun episode anyway so most of the relevant criticisms have already been established.

One could argue this was a good continuity of the story from Star Trek: First Contact. But, it's too bad that the show can keep focus on the Andorian-Vulcan pre-Federation and exploration themes that are much stronger/better than most of these meet the 24th Century Aliens but then forget all about them episodes. Oh well, what can you do?

I never cared about Trek that much anyways, I just like the ships.

[Captain Kwok]

Katchoo:

Technically they can't use the Gorn because supposedly Kirk was the guy who made first contact in whatever TOS episode, but for me, I'm all for met the Gorn!!!

[Fyron]

Or better yet, cancel Star Trek and get Babylon 5 or a spinoff of B5 back in production.

I second that motion!

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Enterprise is meeting the Borg... wtf? Can they not at least try to be original, and try not to destroy the Last vestiges of continuity left in Star Trek?

You have to keep in mind that in the end, that is the end of the series, Archer and gang will not have exsited. You see, instead of going on the mission to take the Klingon home, Star Fleet listens to the Vulcans and keeps Archer at home. The Klingon dies, and the Temperal Cold war goes on without Earth ever having become involved in it prior to 27th century. The first ships meet up with the Romulans and war breaks out. No Archer missions, no discoveries, no borg prior to the original encounter thus the original time line is preserved. From what I have read, Archer is going to be given the choice to go back in time and stop himself from forcing the issues or watch as Earth is destroyed. He sabotages the warp drive of the NX - Enterprise which results in its destruction in space dock. The Klingons blame Earth for the death of their operative, and the Klingon Earth cold war begins.

Arch goes on to become a diplomat to Andor and is fundamental in bringing the Vulcans and Andorans into an alliance that becomes the Federation.

Basically Archers voyages never happened. Or that was the way it was pitched to Paramount, but as it has become known as, the R&B Ripple effect. A sarcastic statement that has come to characterize Rick Berman and Brandon Braga constant desire to change things and blow continuity all to hell. One can say that there are billions of Star Trek universe and that the stories these people tell are fragments from one quantum universe or another, so continuity does not matter. (And they call themselves writers!)

Enterprise, or as it is now know, Nosurpise, is a good show, that has a seven year mission to bore us death and completely and utterly alter the established, or previously established, continuity of the trek universe.

I will say the the episodes that have used races such as the Romulans, Borg, and tholions have been well done and enjoyable.

"How dull do you have to be to have to "steal" story concepts and characters from other shows? Lame as hell would be the answer. No talent, shallow imaginations, lacking commitment, and above all else, driven by Ratings." - From a trek forum

I do not buy this, and hope that other do not as well. Put yourself in the writers shoes and walk a mile with them working under the Dictators and you will do what they demand or find yourself out of work like a lot of other former star trek writers. Just ask Ira Stevens about that.

[ August 21, 2003, 09:03: Message edited by: Atrocities ]