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wow. such a calm and intelligent discussion, im sure the Last thing anyone wants is my two bits.

not to belittle this or anything, but I think the entire arguement is fairly sophmoric:

Creationist: god created the universe on a bet once, when he was drunk.

Scientician: the universe always existed, and came into its current stage via big bang, flying monkeys, or some other popular theory.

C: thats plain silly, where did the stuff come from that the universe came from? god had to create it at some point. it cant have always been there.

S: why the hell not, or i dunno? so where did god come from?

C: he/she/it was always there, of course.

S: so the universe cant have always existed, but god can?

C: you just dont have any faith

S: ive got faith in the universe. its right here. look. (jumping up and down)

C: now thats just plain silly. how do you think you got that soul and free will to jump up and down like that?

S: I evolved from a slug

C: no, along with the platapus, you are one of god's little jokes.