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Old November 11th, 2008, 06:10 PM

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Default Re: OT: US President (US Dom Players only)

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We just got through 8 of the worst years of governance in this nation's history, and McCain looked to want to continue walking down that same path - at least give the alternative a chance to step into office and prove he can do even just a LITTLE BIT better than what we've been trained to accept.
See,

This is the problem with politics. I felt the 8 years under clinton were *horrible*. A president *lied* under oath, before a court, and then his political allies said party is more important than principle and ensured he got away with it.

Clinton tomahawked sudan - knowing osama wasn't there, and ended up paying restitution just to sway the wavering and distract attention from the impeachment vote. And while you leftists decry that 'bush lied and people died'.. pretty much you ignore the same thing when Clinton did it.

But, I have no problem giving obama a chance - I think we all should. I do think his shutting down gitmo and granting terrorists the rights of us citizens is appauling. I really can't understate that enough. Keep a lawyer employed!

But my real objection was the statement 'the worst governance in our history'. I doubt it actually qualifies as that - I can think of plenty of other stellar examples.

But even if it does, I include democrats in that 'worst governance'. I consider much of this financial debacle to be democrat inspired - from running Fannie and freddie like a democratic piggy bank, to requiring banks to make a certain percentage of their loans be to non credit worthy customers..

I guess what I'm trying to say Jim, is we can continue in this endless cycle of recrimination, or we can tone the invective down, agree that we have problems, and try to solve them civilly.