[Slick]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

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Originally posted by Slick:
Your assumption: a soul has mass.

Dubious at best, and no evidence to support it. Of course, that is fine for satire.

Slick.

Your assumption: there is a soul.

Everything that exists is matter or energy (or something like anti-matter, which is equivalent for purposes of this post). But, matter is energy, and energy is matter. All waves of energy have particle-like properties, such as a mass equivalent property, though it is normally infintesimal. All particles of matter have wave-like properties, though those are normally infintesimal (except for very, very fast moving particles, such as electrons, which are particles, but act more like waves than particles). Thoughts are energy on a quantum level, which exist because of the properties of the neural cells in the brain (which are mass). So, if the soul exists, it is either energy or matter (or one of those other things (such as anti-matter), which are equivalent. Either way, it would have a mass. This is not saying that the post by Ed means anything, just saying that the theoretical soul has a mass value. Of course, proving that the soul actually exists is a much more complex issue. And keep in mind that any arguments akin to "the [holy scripture/person of choice] says we have a soul, so we have a soul" are laughable at best. Any reasoning being can do better than that, and all humans are reasoning beings.

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The following exists and have neither mass nor energy:

time
space

These are real. Your assumption that if a soul exists, it must be made of mass or energy simply is not provable and thus unfounded. If something existed and was not made of mass or energy, it would be very hard or impossible to observe to humans. That does not make it unreal. It is very arrogant to assume that if a human being cannot observe something (i.e. made of mass or energy) it does not exist.

A thousand years ago, radio waves existed, but they were unobservable and there would have been no way to prove they existed without developing the current technologies. The same is true of many things. Are you saying that we know all there is to know? Are you saying that if you can't observe it, it doesn't exist?

I would like to see you prove that everything that exists is made up of matter or energy.

And, I never assumed there was a soul. Please re-read my post.

edit: There are no "quantum level" effects in the brain. Do you even know what that means? Thoughts and ideas are electro-chemical in nature.

Slick.

[ August 18, 2003, 00:54: Message edited by: Slick ]