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Poland OOB
Formation 278, Naval inf CO-M, consists of three naval infantry platoons, formations 280. Should be three formation 277s, naval inf pl-M.
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Re: Poland OOB
FIXED. Thanks
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Poland signed an agreement to buy Leopard 2A5 tanks from Germany, in November 2013. They are said to be ready for service, so we might expect them from mid-2014.
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By the end of 2014, 77 Leopards 2A5 are expected.
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You'll find that and the newer Leopard 2A4 they also bought addressed in my last inputs for 2013/2014 in the Patch page thread.
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Re: Poland OOB
Poland to upgrade Leo 2A4 to Leo 2PL:
http://www.defence24.com/312490,leop...n-battle-tanks It's a long, good article going into details. In short:
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Leopard 2PL
Here are photos of polish modernised Leopard 2A4 to version Leopard 2PL http://i.imgur.com/q4jiQVl.jpg There is also article in polish but translated with google translator what systems were modernised https://translate.google.pl/translat...-text=&act=url PT-16 Proposed modernisation package for older T-72 and PT-91 to bring them closer to leopard standard as for now is a demonstrator only Polish army isn't certain that will modernised this older tanks. Photo http://i.imgur.com/hivatwU.jpg https://aw.my.com/en/forum/showthrea...05-Leopard-2PL |
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In this month (November 2016) to polish army were added new training/second class attack aircraft’s
Alenia Aermacchi M-346 Master polish codename "Bielik" http://polska-zbrojna.pl/imageslibra...GetImage/41018 Aircraft with polish markings on top of wings they were introduced in 2012 but were absent from 1944 (soviet WWII tradition) until 2012 when reintroduced on F-16 first time since 1939 official website (polish language) http://www.m-346.com/ Movie with polish camo and insignias aircraft http://www.m-346.com/dla-mediow/aktu...wloskim-niebie That remind me that is possible to add in polish OOB COIN aircrafts formation. In 1946-1959 were used Po-2 and polish license build CSS-13 especially in actions against post AK underground for attack with small bombs and liaison. Then period 1957 to 1965 PZL TS-8 Bies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZL_TS-8_Bies number of yak-11 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakovlev_Yak-11 and yak-18 https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jak-18 used for pilots training only but in case of WWIII were consider as a last and worst reserve for light attacks And after 1964 until now we have times of PZL TS-11 Iskra Poland was only Warsaw pact country which produced own jet trainer instead use chosen by USSR Czechoslovakian L-29 Albatros. They were also sold to Indian AF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZL_TS-11_Iskra In SPMBT we have icons of Iskra in polish and indian painting already included in shp file and master icon list In meantime were introduced new model PZL I-22 Iryda to replace Iskra's but has some faults+bad management of whole program 8 were completed and used 19 never fully finished on production line all retried in 1996 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZL_I-22_Iryda for basic training but with some elements of fighting has some 4 hard points for armament max 250kg all so can be used in COIN combat mission is used since 1992 PZL-130 Orlik https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZL-130_Orlik So Iskra remain until now and will be replaced by this new Italian aircraft |
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However, since mid-2014 Poland operates regular ex-German Leopard 2A5 (what I indicated three years ago), with better armour, which should definitely replace Leopard 2PL (photo is correct). They also use Polish-made HE ammo, like unit 023. 023 Leopard 2A4P - it's a detail, but it has inexplicable big weight. 2A4P seems not real designation (it was possibly some planned upgrade), but it represents the tank with HE ammo. 037 Krab - first battery was about to be delivered only in 11/2012 (Polish article: http://www.altair.com.pl/news/view?news_id=8763&q=krab). Earlier there existed prototypes in a factory, so probably the first date should be changed. Same for 759 Krab Platoon. Finally, by 8/2017 there was delivered a complete battalion (on new chassis) and orders speeded up, so this unit should be duplicated with an ordinary radio code from that date. It is also known as AHS Krab (''armato-haubica samobieżna'' - SP gun-howitzer), but it doesn't seem official designation In July 2017 the first batch of 120mm SP-mortars Rak was delivered - http://www.army-technology.com/proje...mortar-system/ (Rosomak chassis, something similar to Russian #595 2S23 Nona-SVK), other photos: http://iu.wp.mil.pl/userfiles/image/regi3.jpg That's all with news as for now. We could add newest brainchild of our (suspected...) MoD, a OT infantry (territorial defence), being a bunch of weekend amateurs with newest MSBS Grot rifles, but I wouldn't bother... (http://www.defence24.com/664005,msbs...apons-analysis). Unless we'd just copy a standard infantry squad and platoon organization and give them much less experience, maybe a bit more morale. Maybe it should be added in the future, since it seems to be a lasting element of the Polish Army.. btw: weapon #07 wz.88 Tanta AR is a typo, should be Tantal AR. misc: unit 958 Orlik has a jet icon, while it is a prop plane (upper view: http://mazuryairshow.pl/wp-content/u...lik-scheme.png, http://i.iplsc.com/pzl-130-orlik-tc-...B6-C322-F4.jpg). Might be replaced with something generic (the best: grey), since they are rather not important, and their COIN use is highly speculative. |
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Unfortunately, Polish Leopards have too good ammo in the game (sabot pen. 86). In fact they used only German old DM33A1 (in German oob penetration 70, if it is weapon #100 120mm L44 WG87). Only from 2015 there has been delivered mysterious Polish Mesko-manufactured APFSDS-T (no name, sometimes credited as Pz.531). There is an information, that it offers at least 500 mm RHA penetration (http://promilitaria21.home.pl/autoin...pfsds-t-120-mm ). The same ammo is used be Leo 2A5. However, there was also a mention in one article, that along with Leo 2A5 there arrived a small emergency batch of "modern" ammo... -------- Mi-24 helicopters: It appeared, that Polish Mi-24s run out of (obsolete) AT missiles by 2012 (article in Polish https://www.trojmiasto.pl/wiadomosci...i-n106076.html). So, units 124 Mi-24D and 125 Mi-24W should end at 12/12 at best (Mi-24D weren't withdrawn by then). BTW, proper icon for 125 Mi-24W is 3494, used for all terrains. Also 124 Mi-24D should use the same icon 3487 for all. 126 Mi-24D - should be available until some 2022 (they are still in use), icon 3487 for all (rocket-only armed camouflaged Mi-24D helicopters were used in Iraq in 2004-2008). 098 Mi-24W - it differs in a higher TI/GSR 40, but in fact none of Polish Mi-24 had modernized aiming systems, so I believe it should be standard 30. At least since 2004, Mi-24 after refit are painted green (icon 3485), so I suggest to make this unit available from 2004, with green icon and no missiles. photos of green ones: https://skrzydla.org/photos/2010-11-20/80605.jpg http://pzdata.cdn.aikelo.com/pzdata2/Images/25498 http://s3.flog.pl/media/foto/1857256...idok-mozna.jpg There should be also created a variant with two underwing 23mm GSh-23L guns (weapon #187) - they were probably used since beginning, but got more popular on photos only last times. So I suggest it should be based upon green Mi-24W, available since 2004. Although photos usually show them with two gun pods only, they probably can carry half of their 57mm rockets as well. (photo http://www.defence24.pl/uploads/imag...a64fb8afb9.jpg) |
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