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theenemy August 18th, 2008 10:07 AM

Not so thematic methinks
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but should the Deva be available as a pretender for Yomi?

Herode August 18th, 2008 01:15 PM

Re: Not so thematic methinks
 
Why not ? Is it its Hindu flavour that bothers you, or the fact that it's a demon slayer ?

Rytek August 18th, 2008 02:45 PM

Re: Not so thematic methinks
 
Perfectly sensible for a race of bully, headstrong demons to worship a Goddess dedicated to their slaughter. Not all worship is based upon good and love. I would guess fear and self preservation would be a great motivator for the Oni.

JimMorrison August 18th, 2008 03:57 PM

Re: Not so thematic methinks
 
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Originally Posted by Rytek (Post 632289)
Perfectly sensible for a race of bully, headstrong demons to worship a Goddess dedicated to their slaughter. Not all worship is based upon good and love. I would guess fear and self preservation would be a great motivator for the Oni.


I think he's more wondering about the Deva - why lead these uncouth, disgusting demons in conquest, when they're your ultimate enemy?

Herode August 18th, 2008 03:58 PM

Re: Not so thematic methinks
 
A prey is not an ennemy. And she will slaughter them in love :smirk:

Coldshard August 18th, 2008 05:10 PM

Re: Not so thematic methinks
 
They are merely a tool used for assention.. after that they can be dealt with properly. ;)

Poopsi August 18th, 2008 11:33 PM

Re: Not so thematic methinks
 
"demon" is just a PR/POV label. the other side's gods and spirits are demons

Wrana August 19th, 2008 09:16 AM

Re: Not so thematic methinks
 
It's good and well to label something as "label". :P But in this game's context it's a term with perfectly clear sense: something that's unholy by its nature, but isn't undead.
A part about demons worshipping a demon-slayer goddes is already answered. About Hindu origins of the goddess herself - I don't remember clearly about any Kali-like figures, but a lot of Japanese and Chinese mythos gods and spirits are of Hindu origins. And many-armed warrior spirits are certainly depicted in Shinto temples often enough.

VedalkenBear August 19th, 2008 08:26 PM

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but a lot of Japanese and Chinese mythos gods and spirits are of Hindu origins
Out of curiosity, do you have a source for this? As far as I know, very little is known of 'pure' Shinto belief due to the Japanese penchant for syncretism combined with the fact that written language was introduced to Japan hand-in-hand with Buddhism around 500 AD.

Further, Shinto zinzya is normally translated into English as 'shrine' and not 'temple'. Even moreso, every depiction of multiarmed 'spirits' that I can think of offhand in Japanese religious settings is actually Buddhist, not Shinto.

Since my information seems to be quite different than yours, I would be grateful if you could provide sources for your statements so that I can check to see if my understanding is correct. My own source is the Japanese curriculum in the Department of East Asian Languages and Literature at Ohio State University.

theenemy August 20th, 2008 01:35 AM

Re: Not so thematic methinks
 
I still think it's kinda weird that the Deva can be chosen by Yomi. Especially since those demons are tough enough to take the Deva down. Oh well, I guess that people(and other creatures) worshipped anything during EA.


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